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Old Thu, Jul-27-2017, 05:14:52 PM   #41
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It was pretty epic to see SHM live. I also loved the fact that the event was well known to the point there were so many people, but small enough that they were still good people who were there for the music (maybe a few other things too...) Maybe I'm just disillusioned, but I worry it's become like an EDC crowd.
I didn't run into any 'bad' people (I assume the Daisy crowd is bad for some reason), but afaik, TML has been well over 125,000 folks for at least the last five years. I understand the "I was into it before it was cool" tendency, but electronic dance music is damned sure not new, and doesn't "belong" to anyone or any group. Even though I'm a neophyte to the current state of things, I was certainly there for the music and the experience, and didn't go into it expecting any specifics.

I ran into very few jackasses, and met dozens of really great people. If you didn't attend this year, it's sort of silly to worry that it's changed into something you don't like.

Btw, wasn't SHM just Axwell^Ingrosso + Angello? I'm sure they were pretty special together, but the sets I saw by each of them were epic.
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I didn't run into any 'bad' people (I assume the Daisy crowd is bad for some reason), but afaik, TML has been well over 125,000 folks for at least the last five years. I understand the "I was into it before it was cool" tendency, but electronic dance music is damned sure not new, and doesn't "belong" to anyone or any group. Even though I'm a neophyte to the current state of things, I was certainly there for the music and the experience, and didn't go into it expecting any specifics.

I ran into very few jackasses, and met dozens of really great people. If you didn't attend this year, it's sort of silly to worry that it's changed into something you don't like.

Btw, wasn't SHM just Axwell^Ingrosso + Angello? I'm sure they were pretty special together, but the sets I saw by each of them were epic.
hehe, I got out of the scene in 2001 after it had already started getting commercialized. Seeing the setups they have for TML and EDC they look amazing. FWIW, europe has been having massive music festivals for scores and decades now, so this isn't anything new.

Also, if you prefer smaller style music festivals, there's no shortage of those, although it seems they do sell out fairly quickly.
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hehe, I got out of the scene in 2001 after it had already started getting commercialized. Seeing the setups they have for TML and EDC they look amazing. FWIW, europe has been having massive music festivals for scores and decades now, so this isn't anything new.

Also, if you prefer smaller style music festivals, there's no shortage of those, although it seems they do sell out fairly quickly.
I'm going to Moonrise and Basscenter X as it happens.

I got out of whatever preceded this whole thing when I joined the Air Force in early '90 and was promptly stationed in central Cali. This was obviously pre-Internet, but I found a group of kids who were also into Belgian New Beat, House, EBM, etc., but the 'rave' scene completely passed me by when it started to blow up in the mid to late 90s, and the drug use within it meant I couldn't really join in anyway.

About whether it's "too big" now, I can only say I didn't find the size of the festival at all off-putting, if anything it was the opposite. I was blown away by the fact that a "scene" I'd more or less forgotten about (with the exception of a few big acts like Bassnectar, Deadmau5, AVB, et al) had evolved into something truly spectacular.

TML goes down as possibly the most unmitigatedly positive experience of my life, and I have lived a little while. If it sucks now compared to a few years ago, it must've been unbelievable back then. I figure it's more likely the common tendency to view the past through rose-colored glasses, and the present through the jaded eyes of a cynic.
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I'm going to Moonrise and Basscenter X as it happens.

I got out of whatever preceded this whole thing when I joined the Air Force in early '90 and was promptly stationed in central Cali. This was obviously pre-Internet, but I found a group of kids who were also into Belgian New Beat, House, EBM, etc., but the 'rave' scene completely passed me by when it started to blow up in the mid to late 90s, and the drug use within it meant I couldn't really join in anyway.

About whether it's "too big" now, I can only say I didn't find the size of the festival at all off-putting, if anything it was the opposite. I was blown away by the fact that a "scene" I'd more or less forgotten about (with the exception of a few big acts like Bassnectar, Deadmau5, AVB, et al) had evolved into something truly spectacular.

TML goes down as possibly the most unmitigatedly positive experience of my life, and I have lived a little while. If it sucks now compared to a few years ago, it must've been unbelievable back then. I figure it's more likely the common tendency to view the past through rose-colored glasses, and the present through the jaded eyes of a cynic.
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I'm going to Moonrise and Basscenter X as it happens.

I got out of whatever preceded this whole thing when I joined the Air Force in early '90 and was promptly stationed in central Cali. This was obviously pre-Internet, but I found a group of kids who were also into Belgian New Beat, House, EBM, etc., but the 'rave' scene completely passed me by when it started to blow up in the mid to late 90s, and the drug use within it meant I couldn't really join in anyway.

About whether it's "too big" now, I can only say I didn't find the size of the festival at all off-putting, if anything it was the opposite. I was blown away by the fact that a "scene" I'd more or less forgotten about (with the exception of a few big acts like Bassnectar, Deadmau5, AVB, et al) had evolved into something truly spectacular.

TML goes down as possibly the most unmitigatedly positive experience of my life, and I have lived a little while
. If it sucks now compared to a few years ago, it must've been unbelievable back then. I figure it's more likely the common tendency to view the past through rose-colored glasses, and the present through the jaded eyes of a cynic.
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To crash your music festival, I really really really really really want to experience one of the festivals that B&W provides equipment for at least once in my life. Would fukkin kill to get there.





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Also, if you prefer smaller style music festivals, there's no shortage of those, although it seems they do sell out fairly quickly.
True words! One of my favorite festivals was the Nomad Festival in Amsterdam. Quaint but incredible.

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I didn't run into any 'bad' people (I assume the Daisy crowd is bad for some reason), but afaik, TML has been well over 125,000 folks for at least the last five years. I understand the "I was into it before it was cool" tendency, but electronic dance music is damned sure not new, and doesn't "belong" to anyone or any group. Even though I'm a neophyte to the current state of things, I was certainly there for the music and the experience, and didn't go into it expecting any specifics.

I ran into very few jackasses, and met dozens of really great people. If you didn't attend this year, it's sort of silly to worry that it's changed into something you don't like.

Btw, wasn't SHM just Axwell^Ingrosso + Angello? I'm sure they were pretty special together, but the sets I saw by each of them were epic.
I'm glad to hear that, and an occasional jackass is expected anywhere. I think it's just spending all my time at Bay Area shows recently that may have influenced my worry (with the exception of a few 21+ shows).Regardless, I'm hoping to go back next year if I can snag a ticket. Especially after listening to all of the live sets.

Also, yes SHM was Axwell, Ingross, and Angelo. Killer show!
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I love SF, but the scenes there with everything are so snotty. I saw Type O Negative booed off the stage opening for Reznor in '94, because metal = bad. From punk to metal to everything, there always seemed to be some weird insularity to the various genres there, never really understood why.
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I love SF, but the scenes there with everything are so snotty. I saw Type O Negative booed off the stage opening for Reznor in '94, because metal = bad. From punk to metal to everything, there always seemed to be some weird insularity to the various genres there, never really understood why.


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