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Old Mon, Mar-07-2016, 10:30:18 PM   #31
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sell it and move onto something else, if you dont like the m2 sell it and build another e46...
if you already have a nice solid E46 M3, it will be very difficult to obtain another one in the next few years for sure
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Choose another car to sell from your arsenal.
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M2 should be a great car so why not?
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How was your test drive of the M2?
lol, this.

This is my personal opinion, but I think its weird how much resale affects many people's decision. Do people not buy cars to keep or what? If you don't think the car is worth keeping in the first place, why bother? We always seem to be treating these things like business investments, but to me a sports car is never a logical financial decision. I guess if you phrased it as "renting" an M2 for a few years then maybe I wouldn't mind.
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if you already have a nice solid E46 M3, it will be very difficult to obtain another one in the next few years for sure
No it won't. 45,000 came stateside.
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lol, this.

This is my personal opinion, but I think its weird how much resale affects many people's decision. Do people not buy cars to keep or what? If you don't think the car is worth keeping in the first place, why bother? We always seem to be treating these things like business investments, but to me a sports car is never a logical financial decision. I guess if you phrased it as "renting" an M2 for a few years then maybe I wouldn't mind.
Lots of people pretty much do treat cars as rentals.
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The flat 6 Boxsters and Caymans will be going up in value soon as the new models coming out will have turbo 4 cylinder engines. Also the fact that the Cayman has sold so little in the past years should mean that it's a rarer car. The 911 market will be changing soon too since the 911.1 has stopped being produced and it will be the last 911 that is NA and has a MT.

I would keep an eye on used Caymans as I think they will be a desirable car in a few years time.
I agree that a used Cayman S is a great alternative. It might be a better drivers car for roughly the same money, and will already have depreciated a bunch and possibly bottomed out as they are going turbo now. I'm a big fan of the Cayman S. IMO it is a better car than the 911, but Porsche has to keep the power in check so that it does not outperform the it.

Not to knock the M2, because it is a fine car and the current Car & Driver review was pretty positive. However, one statement stood out for me......... Quote: And yet, more than once we found ourselves daydreaming about the perfectly weighted and honest steering of a Porsche Cayman.

The advantage of the M2 is that it still is has 4 seats and one can probably fit a set of track wheels in it. That is the one thing that might steer me towards it.
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Don't lose sleep over it... it's just a car. Imo, best bet is to keep your M3 and see if M2 is really worth it before considering selling. And like someone pointed out, maybe even wait for LCI and see if pre or post suit your needs.
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I despise torque in cars I want to have fun driving. It annoys me in my daily (e39 M5), but for a fun car I really don't want it. Working over the engine is way too large of a part of the experience of having fun in a car to me. In fact, I view torque in much the same way as I view automatics-- technically faster, but a vastly inferior experience.

I totally get the draw of a high revving engine. For years, no for decades, I preferred an engine that can be wound up. When I traded my first '01 e46 M3 for a new '05 WRX STI, I really missed being able to do so. Although the car was cool and I mainly bought it because I needed a 4 door and really couldn't afford a e39 M5 at the time, I did not like the flat torque curve characteristic. After 4 years of that nonsense I went back to a BMW 335i and then a 335d. I think all those years spoiled me driving cars with lots of torque. Not that I don't appreciate my 2nd e46 M3 at all, but it does not have the same affect on me as it did more than a decade ago.

Long story short, I think it is silly to say you hate torque. I would agree with saying that an engine that can be wound up is more fun than one that can't be, but it also needs to have a reasonable amount of torque across the rev band. There are some modern N/A cars that have that, and to me that would be the best of both worlds....revs and low end torque! I don't hate torque, I love it! I just don't want it so much that it chocks the engine once it gets about 5-6k rpm. Maybe that is what you meant, because I kind of doubt you hate torque.
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I get to see and drive the M2 next week at the Thermal track , I will be sure to drop back in to let you guys know my thoughts between the two given I have a E46 M now.

Although the M2 may handle similarly to the E46, they are such two different worlds when you compare high compression N/A power to turbo. N/A is definitely more fun when you are hauling a$$ and revving the shi* out of the engine whereas turbo cars are fun low end because they have so much torque. I came from a E85 Sti (445 AWHP 440 AWTQ ) and definitely miss the turbo torque rush but every time I rev the S54, it reminds me of why I wanted to go this route, classy with instantaneous responsive power that is also more fun in the canyons.

Also for those wanting to get into an M2 soon, good luck ! LOL! If you don't have deposits already, there is no way you are getting one this year. We have over 22+ folks waiting for allocations currently at my dealership.
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Great comparison but that Porsche resale sucks since its not a 911 and any M car will retain its value more. Plus Porsche tax on parts is much higher than BMW LOL
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agreed. BMW cars are not built the same since the E46 ...
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if you already have a nice solid E46 M3, it will be very difficult to obtain another one in the next few years for sure
You seem to be overhyping your car way too much, almost delusional lol
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