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Old Mon, Jul-21-2003, 02:21:00 PM   #31
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Rondawg,

The first intake is a short ram intake and does not have a heatshield. It is not worth getting it.

The second one is a bit more interesting, but the filter does not look washable. and because it is wrapped in metal, it will not allow as much air in as a straight K&N filter.

Pay the extra amount and get a real one.
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Yeah, I'd stay with the stock airbox over that.....
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Here is what you'll get when you order a PAR INTAKE
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And Here is how it looks like Installed. I tested the Car already and it I give it a thumbs up on how it sounds. It was easy to install. I didn't take pics while installing it because when you order it, it will come with instructions that have pics. I recomend it.
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a little OT, but it has some connection. Have any of you guys had problems with your warranty when the CAI is intstalled?
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there is no way on gods green earth that they can prove the intake caused a problem.. not possible.. so no.. no probs here..
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there is no way on gods green earth that they can prove the intake caused a problem.. not possible.. so no.. no probs here..
Lets say you got a check engine light with a fault code of Air Mass Sensor or mixture deviation on cylinder 1-3 or 4-6. If the dealer wants to be an ass they can blame the intake kit for those faults and will not touch your car unless you put the stock air box back in and then they can start proper diagnosis. They will also write down on their notes that you installed an aftermarket intake kit which BMW will read and record.
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In that case you may be correct. If the dealer can prove (or come close to it) that the intake caused the problem, then you are screwed.

Best bet is to put the factory airbox when you take your car in for a problem while you still have a warranty. Especilly if it is a problem that may be attributed to the intake. Even though a properly installed and maintained intake could not cause a problem (aside from hydro-lock).
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Just a note about heat transfer and the intake tube material. When i installed my PAR i had some concerns that the metal intake tube would transfer heat to the intake charge, unlike the carbon fiber based ones. So when i installed it i drove around for a while and then felt the tube to see if it was hot. It was around 99 degrees that day and i drove pretty hard for about thirty minutes (had to check out the performance!) then came home. The last mile i had to slow to 20 mph to get to my home. When i reached in and felt the tube it was cool to the touch! I know that it is not possible but it felt cooler than ambient temp! Anyway, i realize that i was not sitting in traffic or idling long enough to deal with max heat soak but i was surprised....Additionally, the tube is constructed from thin metal that, if heated, would not require a tremendous amount of air to pull the heat back out. Has anyone else "felt" their intake tube? (OK, i realize that i will get some interesting responses to that!)
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My tube is cool towards the filter, but as you get close to your MAF it gets a bit warm.

I think this is normal unless you had a heatshield for the MAF too.

Next time, feel the MAF after you get out and the rubber boot after that towards the engine.

They are both pretty hot. This is where the heat soak will happen and unless my car is odd, everyone should have the same problem.
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