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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Mon, Mar-12-2018, 04:19:28 PM   #261
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Thanks to the poster who shared the Koni link with the rebate, checked that out it's happening until the end of May which is awesome I'm definitely gonna pick up a set before that's over.

This looks legit as well they have an option that includes a set of eibachs with it for $928, which was a few dollars cheaper than when I added the two kits together in cart on ECS, plus the rebate. Shipping to me in Socal from ECS was estimating around $170 while direct from Koni estimated less than $50.

M3 Coupe & Vert (complete kit) $1,600 list - $928 Koni online + rebate:
http://koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmeric...=183&mk=6&mt=1

"Complete car-set kits consisting of KONl high performance, adjustable Sport shocks, struts and precisely fitting Eibach lowering springs."

Haha I like the way they put that "precisely fitting" gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside. Especially that Koni has decided for me, making this an easy decision between Eibach, H&R or some of the other good options discussed here previously. Because honestly in reading all the pages of this thread I was still very torn lol, was leaning towards Eibach, but H&R was still firmly stuck in the back of my mind.

http://koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmeric...-Kit-(Yellow)/

I trust Koni so I am more than happy with this, especially with the multiple deals/discounts and very affordable shipping
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Old Tue, Mar-13-2018, 03:39:08 AM   #263
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That's probably the only time I've ever seen an advertised Koni Shock dyno.^^ the OE rebound curve is way wrong, though, for either the front or rear. That looks like a non M OE curve.

Kinda cool, and aligns with the dynos I had done (konis).
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Old Tue, Mar-13-2018, 09:20:22 PM   #264
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You didn't set them the same.
Do it again.
Redid it 3 times. According to Koni this is normal until they get on the car. We'll see...
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Redid it 3 times. According to Koni this is normal until they get on the car. We'll see...
Some difference is normal. Like, when one is fully extended the other is at 3/4 extended... but closing in quickly.
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Old Sun, Mar-18-2018, 08:21:18 PM   #266
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Thanks to the poster who shared the Koni link with the rebate, checked that out it's happening until the end of May which is awesome I'm definitely gonna pick up a set before that's over.

This looks legit as well they have an option that includes a set of eibachs with it for $928, which was a few dollars cheaper than when I added the two kits together in cart on ECS, plus the rebate. Shipping to me in Socal from ECS was estimating around $170 while direct from Koni estimated less than $50.

M3 Coupe & Vert (complete kit) $1,600 list - $928 Koni online + rebate:
http://koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmeric...=183&mk=6&mt=1

"Complete car-set kits consisting of KONl high performance, adjustable Sport shocks, struts and precisely fitting Eibach lowering springs."

Haha I like the way they put that "precisely fitting" gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside. Especially that Koni has decided for me, making this an easy decision between Eibach, H&R or some of the other good options discussed here previously. Because honestly in reading all the pages of this thread I was still very torn lol, was leaning towards Eibach, but H&R was still firmly stuck in the back of my mind.

http://koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmeric...-Kit-(Yellow)/

I trust Koni so I am more than happy with this, especially with the multiple deals/discounts and very affordable shipping
Free shipping from Tire Rack and a little cheaper too. Do they have an M3F discount on top of that?
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Old Sun, Mar-25-2018, 07:51:17 PM   #267
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Alright, I thought I'd try bumping this recent discussion instead of starting yet another suspension thread. Sorry for the wall of text.

I'm planning to refresh my suspension soon-ish. Like the OP, I am looking for something that can be daily driven. Unlike the OP, I do plan to go the track at some point. After spending a great deal of time reading through this thread and many others like it, I'm now leaning towards something from Bilstein, either the HD shocks with my original factory springs, or a PSS10 kit. The issue is I'm not sure which is better for my needs, nor am I sure what other suspension bits I should be worrying about.

1. I am planning to track the car eventually, but that will be at an undetermined point in the future. I will be hitting up the backroads ASAP with this new suspension however.
2. When I finally do go the the track, I plan on getting camber plates beforehand, because tires are expensive.
3. The car doesn't actually get driven that much, all things considered, so I'm more forgiving of a less civil ride
4. I want reasonable ground clearance and would prefer to not slam the car

Since Vorshlag is a reputable Bilstein dealer/suspension retailer, I called them with my dilemma, and they pointed me towards the PSS10 with camber plates, saying HD + stock spring probably won't cut it for track use. However, the PSS10 are around $1000 more than HD's with my stock springs, and $1K buys a lot of other suspension refresh parts.

1. Are the PSS10 worth the cost over the HD + stock springs for my needs? (Needs being a street car/canyon car/eventual novice HDPE car)
2. With either of these options, could I install the camber plates later down the road, or should they all go in at once?
3. Is there an easy way to determine what other suspension components are due for replacing as well? Some stuff was replaced about 15K miles ago, so I don't want to just refresh everything, just what is still needed. I actually have the car up on four jackstands at the moment, so this would be an ideal time for me to inspect if I can.

I appreciate the forum's always useful input!
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Old Sun, Mar-25-2018, 10:07:23 PM   #268
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Alright, I thought I'd try bumping this recent discussion instead of starting yet another suspension thread. Sorry for the wall of text.

I'm planning to refresh my suspension soon-ish. Like the OP, I am looking for something that can be daily driven. Unlike the OP, I do plan to go the track at some point. After spending a great deal of time reading through this thread and many others like it, I'm now leaning towards something from Bilstein, either the HD shocks with my original factory springs, or a PSS10 kit. The issue is I'm not sure which is better for my needs, nor am I sure what other suspension bits I should be worrying about.

1. I am planning to track the car eventually, but that will be at an undetermined point in the future. I will be hitting up the backroads ASAP with this new suspension however.
2. When I finally do go the the track, I plan on getting camber plates beforehand, because tires are expensive.
3. The car doesn't actually get driven that much, all things considered, so I'm more forgiving of a less civil ride
4. I want reasonable ground clearance and would prefer to not slam the car

Since Vorshlag is a reputable Bilstein dealer/suspension retailer, I called them with my dilemma, and they pointed me towards the PSS10 with camber plates, saying HD + stock spring probably won't cut it for track use. However, the PSS10 are around $1000 more than HD's with my stock springs, and $1K buys a lot of other suspension refresh parts.

1. Are the PSS10 worth the cost over the HD + stock springs for my needs? (Needs being a street car/canyon car/eventual novice HDPE car)
2. With either of these options, could I install the camber plates later down the road, or should they all go in at once?
3. Is there an easy way to determine what other suspension components are due for replacing as well? Some stuff was replaced about 15K miles ago, so I don't want to just refresh everything, just what is still needed. I actually have the car up on four jackstands at the moment, so this would be an ideal time for me to inspect if I can.

I appreciate the forum's always useful input!
Fwiw the hds are shite. The car rolls on hds. Quick directional changes upset the car and it feels less planted than on stock shocks. Its more comfy though.
Pss10s are amazing tbh. Even on full soft the car is like a slate of marbel sliding down the road.
Konis are the best value for money.
All the rest are pretty much the same.
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Fwiw the hds are shite. The car rolls on hds. Quick directional changes upset the car and it feels less planted than on stock shocks. Its more comfy though.
Pss10s are amazing tbh. Even on full soft the car is like a slate of marbel sliding down the road.
Konis are the best value for money.
All the rest are pretty much the same.
Not even close. The HDs are extremely stout with far more low speed rebound than Konis even cranked to full stiff (have you seen my shock dyno thread?). You must be thinking of something else or had a blown set, perhaps. HDs with a mild spring like Dinan or Eibach give razor sharp response with amazing high speed stability.

But I would not run them with stock springs. Konis work best with stock springs.

Edit - you might be talking about the twin tube B4s?

PSS10 is good for non super low ride heights. RT is good, too, but requires a low ride height and don't play nice with camber plates (limited droop problem - Obioban learned the hard way). TCK is nice but not cheap and requires camber plates (lame, IMO).
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