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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Wed, Apr-17-2019, 04:38:59 PM   #61
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Default Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?

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Detailers use same cleaners, but you have to keep in mind that detailers are not restorers. They clean, not fix.

I hear u man ... that is 100% true 👍🏼
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Interesting topic. My E46 seats have always bothered me after purchasing a year ago (126k miles). Dove leather is, of course, a nightmare. If you ask a detailing-centric audience, magic eraser is the devil. If you ask a car forum, it's a useful tool when used with care.

My Dove leather has been cleaned with Gliptone and even diluted APC. The shine never improves. At this point, I'm almost willing to risk a slight amount of leather damage. I'll have to try a test spot.

Excuse the poor lightning. The leather is decent but this photo makes it look terrible.
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Great info in this thread. Planning to try some of these recommendations on my spare steering wheel and then my interior if that goes well
Steering wheels are already quite thin in their coatings if used and worn. I would not use the eraser there.
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Interesting topic. My E46 seats have always bothered me after purchasing a year ago (126k miles). Dove leather is, of course, a nightmare. If you ask a detailing-centric audience, magic eraser is the devil. If you ask a car forum, it's a useful tool when used with care.

My Dove leather has been cleaned with Gliptone and even diluted APC. The shine never improves. At this point, I'm almost willing to risk a slight amount of leather damage. I'll have to try a test spot.

Excuse the poor lightning. The leather is decent but this photo makes it look terrible.
You’re not using strong enough APC. Try Simple Green full strength (just don’t spot it on the seat, it will leave clean “water spots”.). Then eraser soaked in water (not dripping, but not dry).
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You’re not using strong enough APC. Try Simple Green full strength (just don’t spot it on the seat, it will leave clean “water spots”.). Then eraser soaked in water (not dripping, but not dry).
Would you follow up with Gliptone conditioner or leave it alone after cleaning?
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Would you follow up with Gliptone conditioner or leave it alone after cleaning?
Conditioners really do nothing.
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Old Thu, Apr-18-2019, 11:58:09 AM   #67
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Apart from making it shiney again.

At least that is my personal experience with them.
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Default Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?

Then what is the keep to keeping the hides supple? just keeping the exposure to UV and heat to a minimum? ( meaning the car needs to be garaged)

so just de-greasing them periodically is really the best thing you can do for your leather?

In my case, mine have been repainted and the job was shotty and at this point I need to decide if repainting them again ( after a through cleaning of course) is worth it or just redoing the seats them self.... since i have some deep cracking , redoing the leather might be the best thing.... we'll see how much i really want to spend on this


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Most people do not realize that leather in most cars, E36 and 99% of BMWs included, is not the leather you typically see on a couch or leather recliner. Or office chair.

It is completely sealed, processed, stamped, painted, and plastic coated - so putting conditioner on such leather is like putting it on a piece of glass - it won't be absorbed by anything but your pants. Thus the post above saying that conditioners do nothing.

Keep it clean, away from heat and sun exposure, and that's the best you can really do.
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So how come APC works then? Or other degreasers? If it's just glass your cleaning...
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