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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Jun-03-2013, 09:18:14 PM   #51
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You should read the definitive Castro TWS oil thread before you talk smack.

I used to run liqui-moly 10w60 and I sent it in to blackstone labs. Posted the results in the oil analysis thread. Now I'm running cast too TWS. When I do this next oil change. 5k from now according to the service indicator. I will be sending the Castrol sample in.
Same car. Same motor. 2 oils. 15k apart.
We shall see what the hard evidence indicates.

But for what it's worth. I buy the Castrol koolaid.
I Have done my research and I do speak from personal exp. Castrol oil is junk. The Additive your looking for is Zinc Phosphorous. From my research, own sightings and experience that Castrol will cause problems and I believe its the reason for Vanos units failing and as well as in the newer VW's the Castrol oil is the reason for camshafts wearing out and causing driveability concerns along with misfiring.

Once the oil company TOTAL makes a 10w-60 oil for our cars I will be switching to that. For now I will Use Luqid moly and u can use Castrol if that's what u like. My shop does oil analysis constantly and Total always comes back as the best and Castrol is down at the bottom.
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Hmm. We'll see how it is when mine comes back.
Fwiw, You're the 1st person I've even seen knock the Castrol. Odd if you ask me.
Are you sure you're talking about the s54 vanos? Bolts and tab shearing off. I really don't think the type of oil has diddly squat to do with poor design. Check out the Biesen vanos thread.
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Yes I am talking about our engines. Im just speaking from my experience and point of view on the oil. If im the only one putting down Castrol here doesn't make me wrong.

Not here to start a massive argument and get way off topic from op thread. Just making a statement.
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Your "experience" is just relying on what you think will happen with no actual proof or evidence or anything. All you have done is come in and claim Castrol is crap in a few threads with no reasoning behind it. And Vanos failure's are well documented with the reasoning behind them and fixes.
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I change my oil every 3k miles and the oil is just hanging on... wtf?
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I Have done my research and I do speak from personal exp. Castrol oil is junk. The Additive your looking for is Zinc Phosphorous. From my research, own sightings and experience that Castrol will cause problems and I believe its the reason for Vanos units failing and as well as in the newer VW's the Castrol oil is the reason for camshafts wearing out and causing driveability concerns along with misfiring.

Once the oil company TOTAL makes a 10w-60 oil for our cars I will be switching to that. For now I will Use Luqid moly and u can use Castrol if that's what u like. My shop does oil analysis constantly and Total always comes back as the best and Castrol is down at the bottom.
TOTAL makes a 10W60 oil.
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Yeah, the Castrol leaves out the zinc and phosphorus because of emissions. Only the special or boutique (whatever you wanna call it) will have elevated zinc and phosphorus which adds some additional protection. Redline has about 1200ppm and I'm sure Liqui-Moly, Amsoil and others like that have about that level as well.

I used to use Valvoline VR1 10w-30 conventional racing oil in my 330 which you can't really use with cats since they'll plug up from all of the minerals in the VR1.

IMO, the difference will be minimal. As long as you use a high quality oil (like a Castrol TWS, Redline, etc.) keep the oil level just right and change frequently (7.5k miles)... you'll get whatever miles God intended for you to get.
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I Have done my research and I do speak from personal exp. Castrol oil is junk. The Additive your looking for is Zinc Phosphorous. From my research, own sightings and experience that Castrol will cause problems and I believe its the reason for Vanos units failing and as well as in the newer VW's the Castrol oil is the reason for camshafts wearing out and causing driveability concerns along with misfiring.

Once the oil company TOTAL makes a 10w-60 oil for our cars I will be switching to that. For now I will Use Luqid moly and u can use Castrol if that's what u like. My shop does oil analysis constantly and Total always comes back as the best and Castrol is down at the bottom.
Not all Castrols are created equal. The Castrol 0w-30 rivaled many Elf oils of similar viscosities. TWS specifically is an ester based oil (well at least it was -- who knows with the SM and SN rated stuff), and the ZDDP numbers I've seen around are similar between TWS and Liquimoly.

VANOS issue are likely caused by oversized holes. I imagine the VW issues (if they exist, I don't know if you're just making stuff up at this point) would have more to do with the lower viscosities and higher temperatures that are used these days.
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Im with bigjae. World Listen to his experience over Most. That Said. Im not buying the zinc Content crap causing vanos failure.
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Your "experience" is just relying on what you think will happen with no actual proof or evidence or anything. All you have done is come in and claim Castrol is crap in a few threads with no reasoning behind it. And Vanos failure's are well documented with the reasoning behind them and fixes.
I do not take the time out of my work day when pushing cars through 3 bays to myself daily to stop and write up a nice long write up and take pictures and post a 3 chapter novel on about all my findings I see.

I'am not saying that the oil is the only and main cause of Vanos failure. what im saying is that I believe it's a contributing factor. You can take it with a grain of salt, to heart, or just laugh and move on. Totally up to you. Do I care what you do or put in your Engine...No not at all. I came in making a statement with my experience.

Mozgov - I must have missed this or my seller where I get my oil through may have missed it. Checked twice last year and was told that it was coming out soon but didn't know when. Thank you for letting me know.

Bigjae1976 - IMO, the difference will be minimal. As long as you use a high quality oil (like a Castrol TWS, Redline, etc.) keep the oil level just right and change frequently (7.5k miles)... you'll get whatever miles God intended for you to get - Oh the GOD excuse...here we go again.

The statement I made about the newer VW is true. That is why there is a TSB posted to stop using the current oil because of this issue. not making it up and go do the research your self if you are that stubborn.
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