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Old Sun, Mar-13-2011, 11:23:13 PM   #11
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To the OP-- I'm sorry to hear about the problems you've been having- terrible stuff. I am considering ordering M-DCT when I trade in my '08 for a '12. But when I read posts like this, it makes me think about sticking with 6 MT. I know this is an odd question, but if you had to do it over again would you have gone manual? I've driven a M-DCT at the M Power event and was extremely impressed. But for every day driveability/liveability I'm not so sure now. If any of you other M-DCT owners would like to weigh in, I'd love to hear your opinions. Thanks.
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To the OP-- I'm sorry to hear about the problems you've been having- terrible stuff. I am considering ordering M-DCT when I trade in my '08 for a '12. But when I read posts like this, it makes me think about sticking with 6 MT. I know this is an odd question, but if you had to do it over again would you have gone manual? I've driven a M-DCT at the M Power event and was extremely impressed. But for every day driveability/liveability I'm not so sure now. If any of you other M-DCT owners would like to weigh in, I'd love to hear your opinions. Thanks.
I have an '11 E92 with DCT and have been very pleased with it. Frankly, I did not think I would ever buy one, but after several test drives, I changed my mind. I've only had one track weekend with it, but after about 7K street miles, it has been trouble free and a pleasure to drive. To be honest, my last street/track car was 996 GT3, and if BMW had a comparable clutch, shifter and transmission, I would have stayed with the conventional manual. There is no doubt that DCT is faster. Not only are the shifts faster, but it also allows total freedom for left foot braking. So, on track, I'm convinced that DCT is superior. But, since most of us buy M3's for the street, the DCT performance advantage is secondary to the overall driving experience. Proper control of the clutch and heel/toe shifting is a lot of fun, and you don't have that with DCT. Also, some folks are disappointed because the DCT, in D mode, does not really act like an automantic, because it is not. It does not have the same seamless operation as a good automatic, and some clunking and lagging is noticed at low speed maneuvers. This bothers some folks, so a good long test drive is highly recommended. I see no reason not to buy the DCT from a reliability perspective, it's just personal preference.

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To the OP-- I'm sorry to hear about the problems you've been having- terrible stuff. I am considering ordering M-DCT when I trade in my '08 for a '12. But when I read posts like this, it makes me think about sticking with 6 MT. I know this is an odd question, but if you had to do it over again would you have gone manual? I've driven a M-DCT at the M Power event and was extremely impressed. But for every day driveability/liveability I'm not so sure now. If any of you other M-DCT owners would like to weigh in, I'd love to hear your opinions. Thanks.
Short answer: NO. I LOVE the DCT (and the wife gets to drive it too). I would not hesitate, especially in a 2012 model year (4-5 years since it came out). Someone made a great point earlier about BMW moving the DCT into the rest of the line. That speaks volumes about what overall data they seem to have gathered over the years in reliability. I am not to concerned yet. Maybe if something happens again I will change my mind, but only for earlier model years like mine (2009).
PS, I really like the 2011 335i loaner, but i really miss my M3 (absence makes the heart grow fonder).
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elh0102 and M3cardenal-- thanks very much for your thoughtful and candid comments-- very helpful and much appreciated! Although I love driving manual, I think it will be the M-DCT for my '12. I would also like my girlfriend and other family members to be able to drive my car when necessary. Most importantly, I was TOTALLY blown away when I got behind the wheel of an M-DCT at the M Power event. Thanks again guys.
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Great write-up Cleveland, you hit the nail on the nuts.
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I wonder if Mitsubishi's SST (twin clutch) transmission has any problems like BMW's DCT. I drove an Evo X MR and the tranny was quite excellent.
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40K miles on my DCT-no probs. This includes 3-4 trackdays. I drove an 335i first and left disappointed. On the way out I saw a M3. Took a drive. Wow, where do I sign!
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40K miles on my DCT-no probs. This includes 3-4 trackdays. I drove an 335i first and left disappointed. On the way out I saw a M3. Took a drive. Wow, where do I sign!
What year was the 335?
I have been driving a 2011 loaner for about a week (nice, but not even close).
I was a little nervouse about the new power numbers from the updated engine. I thought I was going to regret the extra $$$$ for the M3. Its an apple and an orange.
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Both were '08's. So I bought the '08 M3. The 335 was no slouch-it felt like the Evo VIII I owned for a while. But the M3 was a huge step up.
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Hi All,

Has anyone actually had this happen to them as well? It happened to me and I would love to know if it was the clutch or the whole transmission. My SA can not give me an answer.

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