BMW M3 Forum
BMW M3 Forum BMW M3 Gallery BMW M3 Reviews BMW M3 Social Groups BMW M3 Chat M3Forum Sponsors >>
Loading


Mobile M3forum
Go Back   BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X) > BMW M3 Discussions > E36 M3 (1992-1999)
Tire Rack Buy Winter Tires Now!
Not a member? Register Now!
Register Gallery All Albums Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar FAQ

E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Tue, May-01-2018, 11:50:14 PM   #31
westopher
Registered User
 
westopher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,729
Reputation: 0 westopher is on a distinguished road
Location: Vancouver

Canada




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

I can legitimately tell you the OEM splitter, and OEM high wing with gurneys is extremely noticeable in the seat O pants meter.
__________________

98 m3, techno/anthrazit cloth, 103k and officially worthless. 2000 323i touring, silver/grey/sport pack, 170k and officially boring.
Member journal. http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=491859
Jump to top westopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Register now and remove these ads
Old Tue, May-01-2018, 11:56:34 PM   #32
Nate047
Registered User
 
Nate047's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 812
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 Nate047 is on a distinguished road
Location: Los Angeles

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

I guess it would depend on the track, but typically I wouldn't take an increase in drag in exchange for more rear end grip unless I were making significant power over stock, and felt my rear end grip was lacking. Are you feeling loose in the rear end currently? (no homo lol) But yea since you have the OE wing on there already, may as well make the change with no sacrifice in points. I feel like you'll want a front splitter of some sort as well if the high LTW wing does prove to do something noticeable.

FWIW I put mine on strictly because it looks cool and I'm secretly a ricer still in spite of it all. Also I didn't notice anything significantly different driving dynamic wise after putting it on. My setup is not very loose on the back end, the car rotates but doesn't really break loose unless I really try to slide it. Or do something really wrong lol.
__________________
http://www.natehasslerphoto.com
Jump to top Nate047 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Tue, May-01-2018, 11:58:04 PM   #33
Nate047
Registered User
 
Nate047's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 812
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 Nate047 is on a distinguished road
Location: Los Angeles

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by westopher View Post
seat O pants meter.
Best way to measure any mod lol I got 50whp from my intake and exhaust on my butt dyno
__________________
http://www.natehasslerphoto.com
Jump to top Nate047 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 12:20:31 AM   #34
westopher
Registered User
 
westopher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,729
Reputation: 0 westopher is on a distinguished road
Location: Vancouver

Canada




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

Its all that matters to me, as I'm not timing anything.
The only thing that gets measured in my car is how much fun I'm having.

When I had the wing off the car entirely when I was getting it sprayed with my risers, while still having my front splitter extended, even my wife commented from the passenger seat how the car felt squirrelly.

With no front splitter, I noticed no difference from OE wing, to no wing, to low rise wing. With the front I notice a definitive difference from no wing to low wing, and low to high.
__________________

98 m3, techno/anthrazit cloth, 103k and officially worthless. 2000 323i touring, silver/grey/sport pack, 170k and officially boring.
Member journal. http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=491859
Jump to top westopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 12:28:09 AM   #35
SQ13
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,524
Reputation: 0 SQ13 is on a distinguished road
Location: U.S.

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

What about no splitter and high wing?
__________________
Jump to top SQ13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 12:39:04 AM   #36
westopher
Registered User
 
westopher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,729
Reputation: 0 westopher is on a distinguished road
Location: Vancouver

Canada




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

I've never run that, but bet the understeer would be noticeable. It says right in the manual from bmw don't run one without the other or it drives like shit basically.
__________________

98 m3, techno/anthrazit cloth, 103k and officially worthless. 2000 323i touring, silver/grey/sport pack, 170k and officially boring.
Member journal. http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=491859
Jump to top westopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 12:40:23 AM   #37
Braymond141
Registered User
 
Braymond141's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 19,977
Reputation: 0 Braymond141 is an unknown quantity at this point
Location: Oakhurst, CA

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

I thought so too but that record setting estoril E36 coupe on the nurburgring ran the rear GT wing in high rise with no front aero at all.
Jump to top Braymond141 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 12:43:52 AM   #38
Braymond141
Registered User
 
Braymond141's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 19,977
Reputation: 0 Braymond141 is an unknown quantity at this point
Location: Oakhurst, CA

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

Oh wait, he does run the splitters. BMW lists those as a necessary part to the Aero package. No tray though.

SQ, I assume you meant the tray.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...e-nurburgring/
Jump to top Braymond141 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 01:10:18 AM   #39
jayjaya29
Photographer
 
jayjaya29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,395
Reputation: 0 jayjaya29 is on a distinguished road
Location: Kennesaw, GA

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

I definitely feel a shit ton of drag with my wing. Maybe a little bit of downforce when on the track in high speed corners.
Jump to top jayjaya29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Wed, May-02-2018, 01:35:20 AM   #40
SQ13
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,524
Reputation: 0 SQ13 is on a distinguished road
Location: U.S.

United States




Default Re: Best "Fake" LTW High Wing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braymond141 View Post
Oh wait, he does run the splitters. BMW lists those as a necessary part to the Aero package. No tray though.

SQ, I assume you meant the tray.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...e-nurburgring/
Yeah, splitter + tray setup. I might just pair my wing with OE splitters and call it a day. I can't justify $1k+ cost of OE splitter and tray. And the OE two piece splitter is probably easier to mount than some aftermarket race splitter like Motion's.

Edit: $428 for splitters on ECS, wtf

Edit2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/E36-M3-lip-...ZZVmyI&vxp=mtr
I've had bad luck with eBay parts so far though
__________________

Last edited by SQ13; Wed, May-02-2018 at 01:54:31 AM.
Jump to top SQ13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:11:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
M3Forum.com and M3forum.net is in no way sponsored, endorsed or affiliated by or with BMW NA / BMW AG or any of it's subsidiaries or vendors.
BMW and M3 (E90 M3 | E92 M3 | E93 M3 | E46 M3 | E36 M3 | E30 M3) are registered trademarks of BMW AG.
M3Forum Terms of Service
Copyright 1999-2017 M3Forum.com
Discussing Best "Fake" LTW High Wing? in the E36 M3 (1992-1999) Forum - {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999 at BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X)