E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings

Philby · Wed, May-17-2017, 08:49:59 PM

My first and only M3 so far:

1998 4-dr 5-speed, Hellrot (red), 155K miles, paid $3800 near Ft. Hood Texas.

Seems to be all stock except shifter, stock exhaust which I prefer.

Needs hood & roof repaint, otherwise OK exterior.

Driver seat some wear, rear seat leather hardened and cracking a bit.

Had no maintenance history.....

3rd gear syncros gone, cannot upshift fast, have to double-clutch down.

Scariest thing is low oil pressure at idle, hot day, engine fully hot PLUS high copper and lead in oil analysis, seems to me like it needs bearings.

Needs windshield and needs some speakers replaced

Needs secondary air system fixed

Already did or had done:
front shocks
hood shocks
one power steering line leaking
vanos oil leak + valve cover gasket
one window regulator
seat recline fixed
headliner
rear suspension bushings
parking brake shoes
radiator replaced

mitch500 · Tue, May-23-2017, 02:13:14 PM

1997 2 door 5 speed, Alpine white on Dove interior.

150,000miles

No a speck of rust, nice paint but has a few rock chips on the front.

Interior 6/10

AA intake and Exhaust

Drove really great but I did a full suspension upgrade anyways.

Arizona car but was imported to Canada in early 2000.

Paid $7800 Canadian in July/2016

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

europav · Thu, May-25-2017, 04:45:41 PM

1999 BMW M3 Titanium Silver on Dove Grey

134,000

One Quarter sized under paint bubble on rear driver quarter edge where the body and skirt meet.

interior 8/10

AFE intake, Dinan Software, Muffler Delete

Upgraded Suspension, RTAB and RTAB limiters, New Control Arms

Paid $3k

mtekjosh · Wed, Oct-25-2017, 09:24:27 AM

1995 m3, manual, cosmos on schwarz, 180k, kwv3, vorshlag plates, well modded, fully refreshed suspension bushings, all maintenance up to date, new head at 150, tons of records, bad paint on roof, trunk, etc, vanos needed rebuilt. $3000 in 10/17

1997 m3 sedan, auto, 180k, boston green on magma, bad paint on roof, hood, etc, needed FLCA, mostly stock, runs strong $1500 in 10/17

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Ajcanadian · Fri, Jan-12-2018, 12:46:19 AM

1995 Dakar yellow E36 M3 5spd. 147k miles Quarter hit and rust on that side. $3,200 in Perrysburg ohio

Replaced
Heatercore (12 painful hours)
Continental DWS tires
Belts
Plugs
VCG
Window Regulator
LED license plate lights
Clear corners 4 corner
Bumpstops rear
Rear shock mount
Reinforcement plates
Liqui Moly 5w30

Mods car came with
Lit up shiftknob
Bilstein 4 corners
H&R Springs
Mishimoto radiator
Billy boat exhaust
K40 (removed now)
Exedy Stage III clutch
Dinan tune
Head redone noticed that while doing VCG

25396018_10208674572460419_3748714665860634254_n.jpg

pjo33us · Sun, Jun-17-2018, 08:57:11 PM

WHATS IT WORTH???

1998 Silver/Dove Coupe track/street
108k miles
74k on motor
NOT A DING ON THE CAR
OEM Lightweight Wing
Head gasket and valve job last year... did not overheat
Oil pan gasket, nut welded, pump updated, baffle installed
Rear sway tabs reinforced
Subframes reinforced
Cooling system uograded
M5 clutch/UUC flywheel
Schrick cams, ARP studs, VAC valves
Dual fuel pumps
Stocktech BBK front and rear OR STOCK (MY CHOICE)
MCS 3 way suspension OR GC/Koni set up (MY CHOICE)
Euro long tube headers/AA track pipe/AA cat back
3 SETS OF KOSEI K1s with PSS, Toyo RR and some other tires that are done
Recaro SPG X2, Schroth 6pt AND Stock manual vaders in great shape

I am pretty set on buying it BUT I have no idea how to price it. He does not have the car listed but wants to sell. I am thinking 15k for the car with GCs and stock brakes, maybe 17k for EVERYTHING?

Pierre i am · Sun, Jun-17-2018, 09:27:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjo33us

WHATS IT WORTH???

1998 Silver/Dove Coupe track/street
108k miles
74k on motor
NOT A DING ON THE CAR
OEM Lightweight Wing
Head gasket and valve job last year... did not overheat
Oil pan gasket, nut welded, pump updated, baffle installed
Rear sway tabs reinforced
Subframes reinforced
Cooling system uograded
M5 clutch/UUC flywheel
Schrick cams, ARP studs, VAC valves
Dual fuel pumps
Stocktech BBK front and rear OR STOCK (MY CHOICE)
MCS 3 way suspension OR GC/Koni set up (MY CHOICE)
Euro long tube headers/AA track pipe/AA cat back
3 SETS OF KOSEI K1s with PSS, Toyo RR and some other tires that are done
Recaro SPG X2, Schroth 6pt AND Stock manual vaders in great shape

I am pretty set on buying it BUT I have no idea how to price it. He does not have the car listed but wants to sell. I am thinking 15k for the car with GCs and stock brakes, maybe 17k for EVERYTHING?

I would say less due to the motor not being original to the car. Also a lot of times mods lower the value of these cars, not increase it.

I’d say 12-14k

pjo33us · Sun, Jun-17-2018, 09:58:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre i am

I would say less due to the motor not being original to the car. Also a lot of times mods lower the value of these cars, not increase it.

I’d say 12-14k

Appreciate the reply... My plan is to put it mostly back to stock. Car is immaculate.

Pierre i am · Sun, Jun-17-2018, 11:36:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjo33us

Appreciate the reply... My plan is to put it mostly back to stock. Car is immaculate.

Tbh it sounds like the car has had a rough life. It’s already blown a motor and the new head gasket at that low miles is a little worrying.

herbreal · Mon, Jun-18-2018, 09:51:03 PM

1998 Technoviolet M3 Convertible:

5 speed
Black leather interior
I'm the 2nd owner from a retired lady (drove it 6 miles roundtrip from home to work since new)
129k miles when I bought it and now at 131k miles
Recent basic maintenance by mechanic:
- Oil
- Filter
- Air filter
- Check fluids
- Car Inspection

No leak of any fluids
Everything works exception of a broken foglight and glovebox button (fixed)
Dealer maintained since day 1
PO is still trying to retrieve the history records besides the carfax provided
Bought Hardtop and a Wind deflector

Paid $5800, what is it worth?

Photos here:
www.herbreal.com/cabriom3

Wed, May-17-2017, 08:49:59 PM	#71
Philby Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings My first and only M3 so far: 1998 4-dr 5-speed, Hellrot (red), 155K miles, paid $3800 near Ft. Hood Texas. Seems to be all stock except shifter, stock exhaust which I prefer. Needs hood & roof repaint, otherwise OK exterior. Driver seat some wear, rear seat leather hardened and cracking a bit. Had no maintenance history..... 3rd gear syncros gone, cannot upshift fast, have to double-clutch down. Scariest thing is low oil pressure at idle, hot day, engine fully hot PLUS high copper and lead in oil analysis, seems to me like it needs bearings. Needs windshield and needs some speakers replaced Needs secondary air system fixed Already did or had done: front shocks hood shocks one power steering line leaking vanos oil leak + valve cover gasket one window regulator seat recline fixed headliner rear suspension bushings parking brake shoes radiator replaced

Tue, May-23-2017, 02:13:14 PM	#72
mitch500 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Age: 31 Posts: 74 Reputation: 0	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings 1997 2 door 5 speed, Alpine white on Dove interior. 150,000miles No a speck of rust, nice paint but has a few rock chips on the front. Interior 6/10 AA intake and Exhaust Drove really great but I did a full suspension upgrade anyways. Arizona car but was imported to Canada in early 2000. Paid $7800 Canadian in July/2016 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 97 E36 M3 Coupe Alpine white s54 swap in progress

Thu, May-25-2017, 04:45:41 PM	#73
europav Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 182 Reputation: 0	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings 1999 BMW M3 Titanium Silver on Dove Grey 134,000 One Quarter sized under paint bubble on rear driver quarter edge where the body and skirt meet. interior 8/10 AFE intake, Dinan Software, Muffler Delete Upgraded Suspension, RTAB and RTAB limiters, New Control Arms Paid $3k __________________ 2000Tiag/Black BMW 323i- Sold 2005 IR/ Alcantara BMW 330i ZHP-Sold 2004 JB/Black BMW 330i ZHP-Sold 1999 Tiag/Dove BMW M3- Sold 1995 BG/Black BMW M3- Sold 2002 Tiag/Black BMW M3-Sold 2009 BSM/Black BMW 335i- Sold E90 M3- Coming soon.

Wed, Oct-25-2017, 09:24:27 AM	#74
mtekjosh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Age: 32 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings 1995 m3, manual, cosmos on schwarz, 180k, kwv3, vorshlag plates, well modded, fully refreshed suspension bushings, all maintenance up to date, new head at 150, tons of records, bad paint on roof, trunk, etc, vanos needed rebuilt. $3000 in 10/17 1997 m3 sedan, auto, 180k, boston green on magma, bad paint on roof, hood, etc, needed FLCA, mostly stock, runs strong $1500 in 10/17 Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Fri, Jan-12-2018, 12:46:19 AM	#75
Ajcanadian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 162 In the garage: '95 Bmw M3 Reputation: 0 Location: Perrysburg,Ohio	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings 1995 Dakar yellow E36 M3 5spd. 147k miles Quarter hit and rust on that side. $3,200 in Perrysburg ohio Replaced Heatercore (12 painful hours) Continental DWS tires Belts Plugs VCG Window Regulator LED license plate lights Clear corners 4 corner Bumpstops rear Rear shock mount Reinforcement plates Liqui Moly 5w30 Mods car came with Lit up shiftknob Bilstein 4 corners H&R Springs Mishimoto radiator Billy boat exhaust K40 (removed now) Exedy Stage III clutch Dinan tune Head redone noticed that while doing VCG 25396018_10208674572460419_3748714665860634254_n.jpg

Sun, Jun-17-2018, 08:57:11 PM	#76
pjo33us Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 30 Reputation: 0	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings WHATS IT WORTH??? 1998 Silver/Dove Coupe track/street 108k miles 74k on motor NOT A DING ON THE CAR OEM Lightweight Wing Head gasket and valve job last year... did not overheat Oil pan gasket, nut welded, pump updated, baffle installed Rear sway tabs reinforced Subframes reinforced Cooling system uograded M5 clutch/UUC flywheel Schrick cams, ARP studs, VAC valves Dual fuel pumps Stocktech BBK front and rear OR STOCK (MY CHOICE) MCS 3 way suspension OR GC/Koni set up (MY CHOICE) Euro long tube headers/AA track pipe/AA cat back 3 SETS OF KOSEI K1s with PSS, Toyo RR and some other tires that are done Recaro SPG X2, Schroth 6pt AND Stock manual vaders in great shape I am pretty set on buying it BUT I have no idea how to price it. He does not have the car listed but wants to sell. I am thinking 15k for the car with GCs and stock brakes, maybe 17k for EVERYTHING?

Mon, Jun-18-2018, 09:51:03 PM	#80
herbreal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 4 In the garage: '98 BMW M3 Convertible Reputation: 0	Re: E36M3 Regression Analysis - Purchase Price Findings 1998 Technoviolet M3 Convertible: 5 speed Black leather interior I'm the 2nd owner from a retired lady (drove it 6 miles roundtrip from home to work since new) 129k miles when I bought it and now at 131k miles Recent basic maintenance by mechanic: - Oil - Filter - Air filter - Check fluids - Car Inspection No leak of any fluids Everything works exception of a broken foglight and glovebox button (fixed) Dealer maintained since day 1 PO is still trying to retrieve the history records besides the carfax provided Bought Hardtop and a Wind deflector Paid $5800, what is it worth? Photos here: www.herbreal.com/cabriom3 Last edited by herbreal; Mon, Jun-18-2018 at 10:00:27 PM.

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