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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sat, Oct-14-2017, 01:01:03 AM   #1
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Default SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

A car with ~90K miles, would you replace the clutch at the same time during the swap?

I'm trying to determine the maintenance required on a swapped car.

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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

Yes and all the associated parts along with Rear main seal.
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Old Sat, Oct-14-2017, 03:11:21 AM   #3
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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

Not here at 72k, clutch was like new. But I did have the TOB and pilot replaced. I wouldn't either on my 105k black car because I bought it from the original woman owner and the car was babied.

You could plan not to but be ready to once dissembled and inspected. My guess is that your clutch is in great shape.
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Old Sat, Oct-14-2017, 03:52:34 AM   #4
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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

I would do the disc and associated mechanical wear parts. At 150k I did it all except for the flywheel. SMG is very good on clutch/flwheel wear. The manual disc will likely need replacing far sooner. That last bit of life on the original disc isn’t worth using up over $2xx
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I would do the disc and associated mechanical wear parts. At 150k I did it all except for the flywheel. SMG is very good on clutch/flwheel wear. The manual disc will likely need replacing far sooner. That last bit of life on the original disc isnít worth using up over $2xx
Yes, good point and sound advice. For the cost of the clutch it's sort of a no brainier. It's just that every disc Kaiv has tepaken out has looked almost new or at least at the time he did mine. If in doubt do the clutch.
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Yes, good point and sound advice. For the cost of the clutch it's sort of a no brainier. It's just that every disc Kaiv has tepaken out has looked almost new or at least at the time he did mine. If in doubt do the clutch.
It’s hard to waste a usable disc so I agree with you as well... especially if you’re not freaking out about learning manual for the first time.
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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

I did it at 60k and kept the clutch while refreshing everything else.
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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

I converted mine at 68k - the friction disc was worn out, and SAC assembly was on maximum adjustment. The car had done a fair few track days at that point however. I replaced everything bar the dual mass flywheel as it felt fine. Also worth replacing the clutch fork pivot pin, mine was showing some wear.

If going to the lengths of pulling the box/doing the conversion, it would be wrong not to replace the clutch for what they cost IMO.
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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

My swap was at roughly 105k miles, didn't replace anything as they all looked of adequate life. However if I could go back I would have at least done the throwout bearing.. bit noisy now.
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Default Re: SMG->6MT: Those who's done it, did you replace the clutch at same time?

Did mine at 120k, clutch that came out still had life. I'm pretty sure my car spent most of it's life doing long highway stretches, I probably could have reused it. I replaced everything clutch/flywheel (single mass)/TOB/pilot/pivot/spring/guide tube/input seal. IMO if you already have it apart, might as well so you don't have to later.
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