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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Tue, May-02-2017, 03:35:42 PM   #21
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I would say OEM+ is what I was looking for with my setup. If I could find a set of AC Schnitzer type 3 wheels, I might have to get them. Otherwise, wheels would probably say stock contours. Could go square. Could swap to ds2. I do like some BBS wheels and the Apex stuff, but I would rather spend money on other stuff.

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I'm generally a big proponent of the "OEM+" look for cars that I modify. Tasteful, subtle mods that might have been standard equipment from the factory if the car hadn't been designed with compromises in mind.

That being said, with the E36 M3 I've taken an even subtler approach. I personally feel that the older a car gets, the less tasteful mods look. I am one who generally feels that almost any aftermarket wheels on an E36 look bad. Same thing for body kits, or extremely lowered suspension.

It might also be a personal taste thing too. I've done lots of car mods over the years on a bunch of cars. I've kinda been there done that with respect to most mods and have a growing appreciation for subtly improving areas of need with a respect for keeping the overall appearance of the car original.

Because of this, I've kept my car fairly stock, with a few exceptions. While I was overhauling the front suspension I decided to do Koni shocks and H&R Sport springs. They give the car a nice stance but it doesn't look slammed and still rides nicely. I upgraded to a 3 spoke steering wheel and a ZHP shift knob. The PO of my car put in a decent aftermarket stereo that looks fairly plain and matches the interior illumination but has bluetooth which is nice. I installed a Stromung exhaust that is fairly subtle but sounds great. I also did a HID retrofit into a set of euro glass ZKW headlights to improve nighttime illumination.

This past weekend, I participated in a local BMW club drive with 50-60 other cars. As we all left, they took pics of the cars. Mine was one of the 4 cars they chose to post on facebook afterwards. I think it's because it stands out as being a "near classic" but very clean and tasteful looking...nearly exactly as it was intended and designed. But to the laymen, they would probably be hard pressed to see something obviously non-stock on the car.

When I drive the car, I enjoy it for what it is, and feel pride in keeping the car on the road in it's near original form.

Car looks great Nathan! Might be my favorite E36 I've ever seen in person.
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Car looks great Nathan! Might be my favorite E36 I've ever seen in person.
Ah shucks, you're just saying that...
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Change all 31 bushings, mounts, endlinks and ball joints under the car and you will be amazed at the suppleness of the ride. Changing shocks and struts is not replacing the suspension. Even with just 90k miles, you still have 20 year old rubber under there.

Then add some power, like 50 hp, and you will have an entertaining 20 year old car. I would want at least S54 power levels, which would mean about 90 hp more, but I understand some are satisfied with stock power even if a new Camry or Accord V6 will keep up with or pass them.
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Ah shucks, you're just saying that...


It is definitely one of my favorites, can't wait to meet up and do some driving this summer!


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You cannot really compare the E36 to a car like the 997. The 997 is just an amazing car and significantly newer and more modern. To me, the M3 does not come alive until you breath some additional life into it. All it really needs is suspension work. If you want to build a real appreciation for this car, you need to take it to the track. As a "car" for street use, time and technologies have moved on. At the track, this car starts to really shine. When you drive it to and from the track and then enjoy it day to day, that's when you may really start to love the car.

I owned 3 M3s and a 997; they're all amazing in their own way.
I feel the same. Can't really appreciate the M3 until it hits the track!
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I would not want a car that I could not appreciate unless I tracked it. 99.9% of my driving is on the street and I want to drive a car I appreciate every day. If I had a dedicated track car, I might think differently. Maybe one day.
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I feel the same. Can't really appreciate the M3 until it hits the track!
Heh. I feel the opposite. The m3 feels exciting even near the speed limit, when you need at track to get to the speeds that make a 997 exciting.
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Update: ordered some Dinan stuff (intake, throttle body, and exhaust). Will upgrade from the stage 1 to stage 3. Started planning out what I want to do over the next year. Guess I am keeping it a while!
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Nice, do the suspension too.
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