[#1P4PKing]

Originally Posted by BTB

Ok, I agree, I'm not saying it won't appreciate but it needs more time is all. They're not only going to appreciate from this point on is what I'm saying.

It's true, the e9X M seems pretty solid compared to the e46 with VANOS and racp issues, but it can't quite match the driving experience Great engine though

(just my opinion)

We agree for the most part then. I didn't mean it would start appreciating immediately, just sometime in the future. When doesn't really matter to me, I intend to keep the car until I pass away, regardless of what happens to the value, hehe.


We can agree to disagree on e9x vs e46 driving experience though.

[bigjae1976]

Originally Posted by Obioban

The rod bearing situation on the s54 is VERY different than the rod/main bearing situation on the s65/s85.

I think its about the same. Owners need to address them at some point well before most other engines. I do think the S65 has some more serious issues. I see some discussions with main bearing issues on s/c'd cars.

But the S54s didn't break valve springs unlike the S65.

[JeST]

4 year 50,000 mile BMW original warranty...

[SYT_Shadow]

many people are incredibly afraid of owning a BMW out of warranty

I believe the fear is misplaced. I've driven three to 170k miles with few issues.

[whoa_itswee]

Nice thread... I've been away too long. I had an e46 M3 before getting rid of it at 80k or so miles. I didn't have many issues with it. Moved into a 997.2 and it's currently for sale as I'm getting all caught up and trying to decide if I go e90 or f80. It will be the first sedan I've ever bought

[Jazzkat]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

many people are incredibly afraid of owning a BMW out of warranty

I believe the fear is misplaced. I've driven three to 170k miles with few issues.

Same here.

Sidebar: I have always believed I have an aggressive, stay ahead of the component failure curve, maintenance mentality - however, members on this forum have made me very humble

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

many people are incredibly afraid of owning a BMW out of warranty

I believe the fear is misplaced. I've driven three to 170k miles with few issues.

I currently have 3 at/approaching 170k miles

Completely agreed. I'd feel comfortable driving any of them across the country with no additional prep beyond what I already do. I have no plans to sell any of them, as they don't drive worse and are not any less reliable than when they had 3,000 miles on them.

[pbonsalb]

But you have not paid a shop to maintain and fix them. Those paying retail probably get tired of the increasing costs as cars age and would prefer to put the money towards a newer car. BMW in the 2nd or 3rd half of their lives are great for DIYers and ok for owners with local reasonable independent shops.