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Old Wed, Mar-09-2016, 01:33:35 AM   #1
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Default track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

looking to get a set of track/autox tires for 18x9.5 wheels squared. have heard good things about the nitto NT-01 but they only come in 265/40/18 or 275/35/18

which would be more likely to fit under the m3 without modifying the fenders?

any other tire suggestions welcome. looking for good grip but also decent life span. would be happy to get 2-3 autox's and 1-2 track weekends.

toyo re71r or BFG rival s?
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

you're going to need a lot of camber to make that fit. although you might have to roll your fenders depending on how low you are. my 275/35/18 RS3s fit without rubbing and im at -3.5 camber in the front
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Old Wed, Mar-09-2016, 04:13:45 AM   #3
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

yes you will need more than the average camber settings up front. I also run -3.5 front for my 275/35/18 square setup NT01's. I love the tires so much that I'd order them again.
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

link to 265 NT01?
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

Just get RE71r's. Grip is just as good as NT01's if not better and the Bridgstones give an audible warning before giving away. They come in 265's and 275's. You'll need at least -3.5 camber in the front with fender rolling to fit the 275 NT01's (actually more like 285's)
I've been using NT01's for over 4 years and I just recently tried the RE71r's. Love them.
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

I was in the same boat not too long ago, but I am afraid there is no one answer to solve the problem, as there are many variables. If you run at least -2.5 deg camber in the front you can go with the 275/35-18's. IMO that is the best set up. That is what I went with and it works great.

I highly recommend going with NT-01's. One of the few tires that will not heat cycle out. You can run them down to the cords and they stay grippy the whole time. 99% of tires drop off after X number of heat cycles, some more some less. For some reason the NT-01's don't. Also the characteristic is very forgiving. They gently break away at the limit. I have not had many other track tires, but heard that some are not as forgiving as the Nittos.

Wheel offsets are going to matter as well.
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

NT-01s are fantastic track practice tires and would be good for autox if you're not ready to compete for the top spots yet. The problem is that NT-01s are 100 UTQG tires. Most autox classes are either limited to 200 UTQG and above, or have no limit other than DOT. At 100, the NT-01s are too low to be legal in the 200 "street" classes, but not sticky enough to compete with the unlimited DOT classes, where you'll encounter people running Hoosier A7s and the like.

As suggested above, I'd go with RE71Rs instead. Similar grip to the NT-01s and they're a 200 UTQG tire, so you can compete in street classes.
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

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NT-01s are fantastic track practice tires and would be good for autox if you're not ready to compete for the top spots yet. The problem is that NT-01s are 100 UTQG tires. Most autox classes are either limited to 200 UTQG and above, or have no limit other than DOT. At 100, the NT-01s are too low to be legal in the 200 "street" classes, but not sticky enough to compete with the unlimited DOT classes, where you'll encounter people running Hoosier A7s and the like.

As suggested above, I'd go with RE71Rs instead. Similar grip to the NT-01s and they're a 200 UTQG tire, so you can compete in street classes.

That is probably true if you are competing in auto-x, but if not, I highly doubt the RE71R's is a better choice, at least not in the long run.
I'm sure it is a good tire, but I did a lot of research, on tons of forums, and have talked to many people at track events, and the NT-01 or Toyo RA1's (same compound), are by far the most popular HPDE tires. Once you go for absolute fastest times, then yes, you have to switch to a full on slick, like you mentioned (Hoosier or equivalent). However those all seem to drop off to NT-01 type grip, within 5-10 heat cycles, and a lot of them keep dropping off probably below that.........and cost a lot more to begin with.

The NT-01 starts of with solid grip and gets better as the tread blocks wear down a bit. Then they stay pretty good all the way down to the cord. I lost count after about 80 heat cycles on my last set.

FWIW, I did not get the impression that the OP is looking for competition.
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

I run a square set of 275/35/18 NT01s on the stock 18s. Stock suspension. They rub the fender liner at full lock. You're never at full lock on the track and I'm not taking this tire set up to the grocery store either so no big deal. If you're worried about lifespan, run camber. Lots of it. I have noticeable camber wear after two events on the stock suspension. Moving those tires to the rear and putting a fresh set (plus camber plates) up front for this season.
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Default Re: track tire nitto NT-01 265/40/18 fit?

i think the RE71R's are the way to go for me, as i will be running in STU. i have camber plates and can run -3.5 camber so i should be good to go.

i have heard that the NT-01 doesn't come up to temp as fast as the bridgestone where that is important in autocross.
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