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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sun, Jul-08-2018, 05:37:47 PM   #31
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Oe euro bumper>
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oh more bad reviews from Status Garbage Tuning..... what a surprise
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No surprises here. Although the company they use is news to me, I've been saying this for a while now about SGT. Some people thought I was just a hater...

...But really, just look. Does this surprise you? The part that goes unseen really tells you a lot, doesn't it.
Their carbon bumper splitter looks to be made mostly of glass. Maybe a single exterior layer of the lowest grade carbon for the look? (I am not being 'hateful'...just look at the weave, or lack there of...look at the gaps in the weave). I would be curious to see if it conducts electricity. I suspect their is so much glass though that it won't conduct. Would be interesting to test and I would think, relatively easy if you could expose a piece of what ever the exterior filament is.
You're paying for "Status". It's all about "looking" the part.

For comparison, this is what one would hope to see when looking at the side that goes unseen:


Anyone have a broken splitter with the internal fabric exposed? Would be interesting to put a volt meter to it.
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Right below Leighton's comment.
Do you think that was a coincidence?

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Props to Streamline for making their own shit...
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^^Their trunk fitment (at least in my case) is great. For the front bumper, it seems like OEM or a used Vorsteiner may be your best hope.
OEM or go home.

Vorsteiner was no different. Maybe not made by the exact same company, but it's a California company, pretending to be German, selling Chinese/Taiwanese parts. It's all about that marketing game.
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OEM or go home.

Vorsteiner was no different. Maybe not made by the exact same company, but it's a California company, pretending to be German, selling Chinese/Taiwanese parts. It's all about that marketing game.
Unfortunately I agree. I currently have a Vorsteiner CSL Bootlid. I sold my OE bootlid for it since it was already painted in OG and it was much lighter. Honestly, for having such a high reputation on here (I can only assume this is from nostalgia, from a time where the market was fresh and early and now they are nolonger produced) mine (which I was told was the last one they made, but can't confirm) is 85-90% at best in terms of replicating the original. Honestly. It's leagues better than the SGT SCRZA bootlid I reviewed, but even the Vorsteiner is not exact or nearly as perfect as OE. If I am being honest, I don't even think it's entirely made from CF, even though it's marketed as CF. I think likely its a sandwich of fiberglass and an exterior carbon fiber laminate (based on how it looks internally, looking where the wiring cutouts are. It just doesn't seem as stiff as what you would expect from a thick proper carbon fiber layup. My race shop thought it was a cheap fiber glass bootlid (I think they still think it is lol *que embarrassment* when he mentioned it.). Flat out said "that fiberglass trunk you have is way too flimsy for real downforce on the track." ("Fiberglass!?!?!?! No sir, this is a Vorsteiner 1x1 Carbon Fiber bootlid" *face-flushed red from embarrassment*. Yet, around here other than OE, Vorsteiner is revered as the "best". I'll have to take a video of what I am talking about. Honestly, it could be made much better in both carbon quality and fitment. There is no reason a carbon fiber bootlid should be "flimsy" it should be built to be just as stiff as it's steel or aluminum counterpart. If it wasn't for the fact that this was pre-painted and I made money on my OE bootlid selling locally, I would have kept the OE bootlid. Eventually this will get replaced, but it's a bit lower on my list of priorities (I irrationally rationalize it as "lightweight" for the time being lol)...

...And alas I still own it.

My Vorsteiner doesn't fit this well (just being honest):
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Sometimes you just have to stick with OE, ya' know!?
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Old Mon, Jul-09-2018, 02:43:08 AM   #40
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Saw this on Facebook to. A local guy bought one of their bumpers with dual holes and received a single hole bumper after a long wait. Supposedly they sent him another funnel fitting and told him to cut a hole and fit himself if he wants two holes.

Any feedback on their 1-piece carbon lip spoilers? Fitment decent? I was about to buy an unused SGT one from a club member here in Aus. Could I buy the exact same part for less off Ebay?

would also be curious to see the painted rear diffusers mentioned if anyone has a link to the Ebay add?

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