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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Fri, Sep-05-2014, 06:37:52 PM   #21
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Default Re: Ultimate Alignment Specs?

So my question.

When my car is lowered and I run -2.5 camber up front -2 In the rear

And factory setting toe

Is the factory setting no longer recommended ?
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Default Re: Ultimate Alignment Specs?

Suggest zero toe up front and 3/16" rear


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Old Sun, Sep-07-2014, 12:45:03 AM   #23
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Default Re: Ultimate Alignment Specs?

Depends on the person and circumstance.

E.g. I used to run slightly toe out in front. I was used to it, it was awesome. Now that I alternate with the m5, my brain isn't calibrated for it and it feels out of control/twitchy. Will not be doing that next round of alignment.
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Old Sun, Sep-07-2014, 12:52:37 AM   #24
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Csl settings for a regular m wouldn't be quite right as the track width isn't exactly the same due to the csl having a different King pin than us.
This is not true. The CSL king pins do not widen track as once thought. Rather it merely changes the caster angle of the car. The normal M3 and CSL king pins actually have the same printed part number, but they were just drilled differently to achieve this.

The increased track came from the CSL specific front wheels there were wider than ZCP's.
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Old Sun, Sep-07-2014, 03:42:32 AM   #25
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Default Re: Ultimate Alignment Specs?

I'm trying:

Front: -4.0 camber, 0 toe.
Rear: -3.0 camber, 1/8" toe in each side.

I usually run:

Front: -3.7 camber, 0 toe.
Rear: -2.0 camber, 3/16" toe in (total).
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I'm trying:

Front: -4.0 camber, 0 toe.
Rear: -3.0 camber, 1/8" toe in each side.

I usually run:

Front: -3.7 camber, 0 toe.
Rear: -2.0 camber, 3/16" toe in (total).
That's certainly far from optimal for a street driven car.
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Default Ultimate Alignment Specs?

If I cared about the street, I'd stay around -3.0 or just mark my tie rods for a street and track setting.

I just run crap tires to get me to/from the track and getting work done.

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If I cared about the street, I'd stay around -3.0 or just mark my tie rods for a street and track setting.

I just run crap tires to get me to/from the track and getting work done.

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Indeed, just mentioned it because the op said he was looking for the ultimate aggressive street alignment.
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Default Re: Ultimate Alignment Specs?

Good thread. I run -2 all around.
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Default Re: Ultimate Alignment Specs?

So slight toe in will track better and be more suitable for the highway and toe out will make the car more lively, but more of a handful, correct?

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