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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Wed, Mar-17-2010, 03:08:53 AM   #1
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Default Just bought M3 E46.. SMG question

Hi ,

did a search on smg's didn't find anything useful.

I just bought a 2006 M3.
It has an SMG tranny ,
HOW THE **** does it work ?????

I know its a clutch-less manual tranny , but I feel it shift
no matter what level I put it on.

The little level selector under the SMG shifter ,
I feel mostly comfortable driving it on line (3) 1 2 |3| 4 5...

but I cant predict when car will shift , for me to release gas pedal for it to shift more smoothly ...


any suggestions ?


sorry for noob question , this thing is pissing me off , I have a feeling the tranny has been engineered properly.

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1 - no its not my first BMW
2- yes I have driven manual cars before (and automatic/tiptronic)
3- yes I have read the instructions


thank you fellow M3-ers
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I think you should have test drove one before you bought it.

Are you saying you can't drive it correctly in Auto mode? I'm a bit lost.. as to what your trying to say.

Just stay out of it, is my best advice to you.
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Sounds like you are driving A (automatic) 3. Should shift about 3k. Roobe16 posted a link to a 'how to drive a SMG' manual recently. Might try searching for SMG posted by Roobe16.
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Yeah, sounds like you are in auto mode - get out of that and never use it again. It is only for when you need your girlfriend to drive you home.

Just drive like a manual, but pull the levers instead of stepping on the clutch pedal and moving the stick. The basic driving is simple. You will get better at keeping things smooth with practice.
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go into manual mode when you shift think in your head lift off then gas when you feel as if you had manual shifted. also remember on a hill BECAREFUL MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN GEAR 1. i can remember how many times I drove up in 2nd gear get to the top and then right as i wanted to go the car rolled back as it tried to "automatically" downshift into 1st. fukin scary.
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thanks alot guys for the useful advice.
That's what I've been doing the whole day , driving it in manual mode.
much better like this !

Should of just got a manual M3 :S ..
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It does have a clutch. It's actually the same transmission as the 6spd cars. Only difference is that SMG has hydraulic/electric actuators that can shift faster than a person in S6 mode. It does take a couple weeks of getting used to. I do find myself using S5, and starting out in 2nd gear from stops. 1st gear is pretty useless if you ask me, and 1-2nd gear is not a smooth transition under power. I can't take the delay off auto mode. It's shifts slower than any automatic I've ever driven.
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It does have a clutch. It's actually the same transmission as the 6spd cars. Only difference is that SMG has hydraulic/electric actuators that can shift faster than a person in S6 mode. It does take a couple weeks of getting used to. I do find myself using S5, and starting out in 2nd gear from stops. 1st gear is pretty useless if you ask me, and 1-2nd gear is not a smooth transition under power. I can't take the delay off auto mode. It's shifts slower than any automatic I've ever driven.
Thats how I felt , it does shift slower than many automatics.
and for city driving it is smoother starting from 2nd gear !!


so you recommend S5 mode for regular driving ?
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Hi ,

did a search on smg's didn't find anything useful.

I just bought a 2006 M3.
It has an SMG tranny ,
HOW THE **** does it work ?????

I know its a clutch-less manual tranny , but I feel it shift
no matter what level I put it on.

The little level selector under the SMG shifter ,
I feel mostly comfortable driving it on line (3) 1 2 |3| 4 5...

but I cant predict when car will shift , for me to release gas pedal for it to shift more smoothly ...


any suggestions ?


sorry for noob question , this thing is pissing me off , I have a feeling the tranny has been engineered properly.

P.S.

1 - no its not my first BMW
2- yes I have driven manual cars before (and automatic/tiptronic)
3- yes I have read the instructions


thank you fellow M3-ers
SMG II is not smooth. You will always feel a bit of the shift, but I find it shifts faster than I can with a manual.

So you should push the shift lever to the right again, so the display shows S (sequential), and then you just shift it yourself. I like S mode when I'm driving by myself, and it feels like I'm in charge of the car.

Otherwise, the car shifts around 3k in auto mode (D).

I actually LOVE the SMG transmission, and hopefully you will like it as well. Just give it time.
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SMG II is not smooth. You will always feel a bit of the shift, but I find it shifts faster than I can with a manual.

So you should push the shift lever to the right again, so the display shows S (sequential), and then you just shift it yourself. I like S mode when I'm driving by myself, and it feels like I'm in charge of the car.

Otherwise, the car shifts around 3k in auto mode (D).

I actually LOVE the SMG transmission, and hopefully you will like it as well. Just give it time.
I only did 100km on it so far... I am sure I'll get use to it.
I guess it is a matter of time !
Thanks !
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