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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Tue, Nov-14-2017, 10:27:52 PM   #41
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Default Re: My $50 Baffled Oil Catch Can

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CSL PVC lines? Only part I can think of that you need to buy is 11157833649, and that's $25
The other one is over $100. It doesn't really matter, I could have made my own lines without the catch can and saved $33 more, but my main point was that this DIY was fun and inexpensive.

Leave it M3F to pick anything apart lol. I'm guilty of it too lol. We're the most pedantic and critical bunch
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Default Re: My $50 Baffled Oil Catch Can

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The other one is over $100. It doesn't really matter, I could have made my own lines without the catch can and saved $33 more, but my main point was that this DIY was fun and inexpensive.

Leave it M3F to pick anything apart lol. I'm guilty of it too lol. We're the most pedantic and critical bunch
I hope that what I wrote was not interpreted wrong. I go back and forth on this. On one hand, I love DIY projects like this, and aside from the minuscule weight gain (and more up-keep with regards to dumping a full catch can), I don't see how this mod could be anything other than a positive modification, even if it was found to do nothing at all (What I mean is, it shouldn't hurt anything and if anything, maybe it's helps). On the other hand, blow back really isn't an issue with naturally aspirated engines and I wonder if this functionally makes sense to do (any condensation should burn right off when the motor is at operating temp, and the re-condensed oil vapor returned to the oil pan via the return hose). I've not seen anything that would suggest that their is any real reason that this would be something to consider doing, other than the engine bling factor and the pride one feels after a good DIY project. If it keeps the inside of the airbox clean for ~$50 bucks, then I can see a small OCD benefit (which I am guilty of), but at the same time, I've not seen people report that their airboxes are getting gunked up without one (and if they are, it's likely due to a reason that should be addressed at the site of the culprit rather than through a bandaid fix). But I still appreciate you sharing DIYs like this. At the very least, it is useful to those with FI applications. I for one, still found it entertaining to follow.

...and like i've said, I've been on the fence on this. It seems M3forums is split on adding a catch can after converting to a CSL airbox, so i figured it was a worth while discussion to have considering how many people do venture down this route.
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Default Re: My $50 Baffled Oil Catch Can

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The other one is over $100. It doesn't really matter, I could have made my own lines without the catch can and saved $33 more, but my main point was that this DIY was fun and inexpensive.

Leave it M3F to pick anything apart lol. I'm guilty of it too lol. We're the most pedantic and critical bunch
What other part are you talking about though?
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Old Tue, Nov-14-2017, 11:17:06 PM   #44
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What other part are you talking about though?
Air shut off valve #11617833647

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Leighton - Don't worry man we're all here, at least in part, for the pursuit of true information and we would like to know whether much gunk ends back in the intake or not, and there's nothing wrong with that!

I'm just saying, it's easy for us, myself included, to spend hours/days arguing about something that would net .0000312341 whp or add 24 grams to the engine bay *gasp* and maybe we can take a step back and just enjoy the car and the modding.

My stock airbox was fairly dirty, but it has 173k on it so...
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Air shut off valve #11617833647
Catch can doesn't eliminate that though - it has nothing to do with the PCV
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Old Tue, Nov-14-2017, 11:30:23 PM   #46
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Catch can doesn't eliminate that though - it has nothing to do with the PCV
I didn't say it eliminated it. I just said that I didn't buy as I did my own custom thing (hoses/clamps) as you can see in the pics.

And I said PCV because I couldn't remember the name, "CSL air shut off valve."

This DIY and this issue of crankcase ventilation doesn't need such scrutiny

Do a catch can if you want. If you don't want to, don't
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The other one is over $100. It doesn't really matter, I could have made my own lines without the catch can and saved $33 more, but my main point was that this DIY was fun and inexpensive.

Leave it M3F to pick anything apart lol. I'm guilty of it too lol. We're the most pedantic and critical bunch


Interesting how small improvements or differences can make a thread go crazy

On a serious note, I will definitely be using this as a reference when I get a CSL box. Less gunk in the intake the better in my eyes!
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Old Mon, Jan-22-2018, 11:56:06 PM   #48
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Default Re: My $50 Baffled Oil Catch Can

Just wanted to update this thread with some findings (a post from another thread):

I checked the catch can and had a decent amount in there:




I also then checked the air filter:




Not too bad, not too many miles though either. Has been windy a lot and we've had poor air quality for a while now out here with all the fires so all in all, pretty good imo.

Also wanted to check the airbox itself. Saw the inside (after filter) of the airbox and found it to be absolutely bone dry. Not a drop or even a film of oil on the inside of the box at all. It may be hard to see in pics, but:






Now I don't know if this is proof of the job the catch can is doing, but I think it's close enough to be happy that I did make the catch can.
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Sweet, it includes a free weed grinder.
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Bumping this cause I made the mistake of buying the catch can and hoses while out of town and didnt check under my hood first. My car is a 2004 so I assumed I had the earlier PCV, but nope for some reason my car has the later 05-06 PCV that makes this install more complicated (prod date 2004-07-15). So I already bought everything, what can I do to keep this install relatively cheap and simple?

I was looking at the ECS catch can kit and seems like in all the pics its on a 05+ M3, and they have a big J shaped hose to deal with the updated fitting. I'm thinking of buying a 180 degree bend piece of fuel hose but dont know what fitting to use to connect the two pieces of hose and also want to keep it as one solid hose, thanks
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