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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Fri, Nov-10-2017, 05:55:38 PM   #11
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Default Re: Xbrace and comfort

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A stiffer chassis has no correlation with a stiffer ride.
I’m no engineer, but I could imagine it’s the same effect as solid bushings. Then more force is put in the chassis, which you could feel.

By stiffening the chassis, you take away some flex, now on the chassis side, with the same end result.
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I’m no engineer.
We know.
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Old Fri, Nov-10-2017, 06:38:27 PM   #13
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We know.
Open door.

Was aleady wondering who’d the cheapskate would be.

Well what do you know. It’s the forum’s professor with a PhD in Knowitall.

Why don’t you explain it then?
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Old Fri, Nov-10-2017, 06:40:03 PM   #14
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The xbrace stiffens up the chassis but in doing so does that stiffness translate to ride comfort similar like going to stiffer shocks?
No.

In essence, it is actually the opposite. A stiffer chassis (or mounting point) has less deflection which in turn allows the moving parts like a damper to do their job better. Damper tuning is a separate discipline. Apples to oranges.

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I’m no engineer, but I could imagine it’s the same effect as solid bushings. Then more force is put in the chassis, which you could feel.

By stiffening the chassis, you take away some flex, now on the chassis side, with the same end result.


Torsional forces are on a completely different plane. Engineers do not create better ride quality by weakening a chassis AYFKM
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You can try to explain it normally without childish pics, like you proof you can in the same post. So guy x say something wrong, you explain how it is. They guy y does the same, repeat the process.

I wasn’t even claiming. I said quote unquote I could imagine. Wasn’t even far fetched.
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You can try to explain it normally without childish pics, like you proof you can in the same post. So guy x say something wrong, you explain how it is. They guy y does the same, repeat the process.

I wasn’t even claiming. I said quote unquote I could imagine. Wasn’t even far fetched.
You could also just try to google it first instead of posting like a know-it-all and then pretending someone who corrects you when you are 100% wrong is the bad guy.

http://dsportmag.com/the-tech/chassi...al-rigidity-1/
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Do it.
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Back in the days people loved the x brace because it protects the undercarriage components.

It stiffens up the chassis on my old 325is considerably but I did not notice too much of difference in terms of ride.

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I had the X-brace delivered two or three days after receiving my car...my first mod. I hope you didn't uninstalled yours and didn't install that original piece of straight pipe as BMW warned not to drive the vehicle without it.
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