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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Fri, Sep-05-2014, 04:52:35 PM   #11
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Default Re: Mishimoto E46 M3 Oil Cooler Build Thread

Not to bash your product and development, but there are already similar designs out there for sale for the adapter, why reinvent the wheel? there are ebay versions also. Just seems a lot of R&D went into it where it could have been used to get the kit together sooner.

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Not to bash your product and development, but there are already similar designs out there for sale for the adapter, why reinvent the wheel? there are ebay versions also. Just seems a lot of R&D went into it where it could have been used to get the kit together sooner.
Why would they use someone else's parts when they can build it themselves?

This way they have their own specs and don't need to rely on sourcing anything from another company or limit themselves to building it a certain way because they copied something.

It really doesn't seem like they put a giant amount of time into fabricating that piece.
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As to why not use someone else's parts. I suspect there is more to the issue than it seems. Licensing and and possible patent issues aside, it is much easier it seems for Mishimoto to control their own manufacture.

Look at what they were able to do with the radiator. I think they have come a long ways from where they were on it. See no reason why this will not also provide another option and with a warranty too boot.
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Why would they use someone else's parts when they can build it themselves?

This way they have their own specs and don't need to rely on sourcing anything from another company or limit themselves to building it a certain way because they copied something.

It really doesn't seem like they put a giant amount of time into fabricating that piece.
Great points! We pride ourselves in the development processes we have in place. This component will be key for use in our E46 kit as well as the E90 oil cooler kit we have been working on, it certainly makes sense for our team to develop our own components.

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As to why not use someone else's parts. I suspect there is more to the issue than it seems. Licensing and and possible patent issues aside, it is much easier it seems for Mishimoto to control their own manufacture.

Look at what they were able to do with the radiator. I think they have come a long ways from where they were on it. See no reason why this will not also provide another option and with a warranty too boot.
Thank you for the kind words!
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Default Re: Mishimoto E46 M3 Oil Cooler Build Thread

Part 2 of this build is up! Check it out guys.

Mishimoto BMW E46 M3 Direct-Fit Oil Cooler Kit, Part 2: Cooler Design and Prototyping

Our team now had a functioning oil line adapter to convert from the stock oil filter housing to –AN fittings. Now we would be able to move forward with designing the actual heat exchanger for our kit. We reached out to a few of our local friends and sourced this Oxford green example!


Test vehicle on lift

Our friend Andrew at Open Road Tuning was kind enough to loan his vehicle for a week of development! First we tore off the stock cooler to get a look at what kind of space we had to work with.


Stock oil cooler removed

Our engineers set to work gathering dimensions and collecting data for mounting points. After reviewing some of the specifics, we made the decision to ditch the stock cooler shroud in order to maximize the size of our cooler with the space given. After collecting our dimensional information, a prototype was created in 3D and can be seen in the rendering below!


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler rendering

This cooler would be designed to mount to both the stock and Mishimoto aluminum radiator. We would be increasing the core size significantly and including a -10AN fitting on each end tank.

Once we had a finalized design in 3D, we worked up a prototype to begin testing both fitment and performance. Check out a few shots of our prototype cooler!


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler

A few close-up shots of the -AN fittings and core!


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler

After verifying that this cooler met all the specifications of our model, our team bolted this cooler to the base of the stock radiator, exactly as it is mounted in the vehicle. Check out a few shots!


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler mounted to stock radiator


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler mounted to stock radiator


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler mounted to stock radiator

This prototype fit perfectly with the stock radiator. All mounting points lined up correctly and we anticipate perfect fitment once installed in the vehicle. Next, we mounted this cooler to the Mishimoto aluminum radiator. Our radiator utilizes identical mounting points to the stock radiator, so we have no reason to believe this would not fit in an identical fashion. Check out a few shots of what we consider the ultimate cooling solution for your E46 M3!


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler mounted to Mishimoto aluminum radiator


Mishimoto prototype oil cooler mounted to Mishimoto aluminum radiator

Alright, so now we had a functioning prototype that fit well on both the stock and Mishimoto radiators. Check back with us next time when we compare the physical size of our cooler to the stock unit and install our oil line adapter on our test vehicle!

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