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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Nov-13-2017, 10:48:23 PM   #11
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based on feedback i'm thinking of trying on a b12 or even b6+oem kit (i already have GC plates).
my gripe with coilovers is that they need constant adjustment and due to having FA isolation on the springs transmit alot of nvh (all bushings are rubber - except for subframe).
coilovers were fun for the previous 2 years that i had them, but novelty is wearing off....
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Okay - for you I think the B12 + camber plates (and maybe adjustable rear lower arms) is going to be the ticket. This is a very stout/high performance setup that won't kill you on the street - it's firm but it's quite compliant most of the time. It's cheap, reliable and uses stock spring pads all around for maximum isolation.

It's a turn-key, set and forget badass setup. Drop is around 1/2" all around but it takes a while for the front to settle.

It might be a little soft for track use but I bet it'd work pretty well, overall.
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Old Mon, Nov-13-2017, 11:46:08 PM   #13
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thanks. a mate is selling that kit.. might try it out
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Old Thu, Nov-16-2017, 03:46:56 PM   #14
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hi all,

wanting to get some input on what is a good suspension combo for aggressive backroad driving (bumps / off camber etc).

im currently running MCA (Aust brand) coilovers (monotubes, digressive valving, single adjustable) with 500/600 springs, gc tops and weight jacks. so, plenty of adjustability available.

it does the job well, but given this is a firmer setup, the highway trips are abit of a chore - street driving isnt too bad.

does anyone have some pointers on how to set up a suspension for canyon carving / hard driving?
barely get out to the track.. so can compromise there.

help appreciated
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Old Thu, Nov-16-2017, 06:09:06 PM   #15
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how bout KWv3 or clubsport since your'e interested in comfort for normal driving?

TC Kline coilovers also are also very streetable relative to the performance
KWV(anything) is too crappy of handling for a canyon carver.

KW Clubsports are too harsh for reasonable street use.
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hi all,

wanting to get some input on what is a good suspension combo for aggressive backroad driving (bumps / off camber etc).

im currently running MCA (Aust brand) coilovers (monotubes, digressive valving, single adjustable) with 500/600 springs, gc tops and weight jacks. so, plenty of adjustability available.

it does the job well, but given this is a firmer setup, the highway trips are abit of a chore - street driving isnt too bad.

does anyone have some pointers on how to set up a suspension for canyon carving / hard driving?
barely get out to the track.. so can compromise there.

help appreciated
I'm surprised to hear about your experience with MCS. Those rates aren't too extreme and should ride decently provided the damping is set up properly. It's really all relative though - everyone has a very different concept of what is "comfortable".

Where did you get them from? Gary over at GT Machino in Sydney is a suspension (and particularly MCS) guru and dealer for them. He has a kit on his car that rides fantastically. Might be worth talking to him about it.
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Your most cost effective option would be to drop to a lower spring rate, then adjust your rebound to match the new rates. Outside of that, the B12 + camber plates setup should suit your needs quite nicely!

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I have 8KG front and 12KG rear that came with the BC BRs. How do you compare this with OP's 500/600 spring rate? What is the stock spring rate?

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You guys making me want some pss10’s


What ever happened to kw’s? Just few years ago they were the “go to” coilovers even ahead of pss10’s. I liked them when I had it on my car, very comfortable and quiet. Didn’t get a chance to push them however.
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I have 8KG front and 12KG rear that came with the BC BRs. How do you compare this with OP's 500/600 spring rate? What is the stock spring rate?
kg/mm*56 = lb/in, or just type “8 kg/mm in lb/in” into google for example and it will give you a calculator to play with.
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