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Old Sun, Jan-14-2018, 04:22:55 PM   #11
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Here's an image for reference - as I mentioned earlier, my car is actually at -3.8* (via laser alignment rack).. the numbers are really just for reference.
That shows what I'm talking about. The bolt to the left is entirely covered by the strut tower. You have to get it where you want it, tighten the two visible bolts, then lower the strut to access the last bolt.

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So really there is no way to tighten or loosen that camber bolt on the left? it looks like the strut bar i am running doesn't allow for camber to be adjusted via the three bolts.



With that being said i might be rebuilding my old vorshlags and using them lol


You just need to 0 the caster so you have access to all 4 bolts, adjust camber as desired then set caster to full max. Which will hide some of the camber bolts.


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Old Sun, Jan-14-2018, 04:55:44 PM   #13
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That shows what I'm talking about. The bolt to the left is entirely covered by the strut tower. You have to get it where you want it, tighten the two visible bolts, then lower the strut to access the last bolt.

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As long as you're using the stock strut bar or any that retain the slots, you do not need to do that. You just set the plate for *roughly* the camber you want (-2, for instance), tighten the bolts while the strut is down, and then use the stock adjustment to get them aligned (there's a *lot* of adjustment in there)
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You just need to 0 the caster so you have access to all 4 bolts, adjust camber as desired then set caster to full max. Which will hide some of the camber bolts.


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Won’t the caster change the camber slightly?
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If your strut plate doesn't have any slots (which bar is it, btw?) than the current design of the Vorshlag plate won't help you adjust camber either
Not sure of the brand, it came with my car.
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Not sure of the brand, it came with my car.
Ah, yeah - looks like they expect you to twist the ends of the bar to adjust.

Up to you! Looks like I was wrong about the Vorshlag plates - they probably will be easier for you to adjust, while caster isn't quite as adjustable
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Won’t the caster change the camber slightly?


Caster should be parallel with the car, so camber shouldn't change as you slide caster up and down. This is just my experience with GC plates.


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As long as you're using the stock strut bar or any that retain the slots, you do not need to do that. You just set the plate for *roughly* the camber you want (-2, for instance), tighten the bolts while the strut is down, and then use the stock adjustment to get them aligned (there's a *lot* of adjustment in there)
I have no such adjustment slots, as my cage extends to welded reinforcements on the tops of my strut towers that have single bolt holes.

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I have no such adjustment slots, as my cage extends to welded reinforcements on the tops of my strut towers that have single bolt holes.

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Ah, then yeah that's going to be a pain in the ass
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I'm a fan of the GC race plates. I like the adjustment range and I don't find them to be difficult to adjust. Mine basically look like Drewsters. I just match the camber left and right when the top bolts can all be reached to get in the ballpark. Then I max the caster, followed by using the slotted holes to fine adjust the camber to match. I use a Smart Camber guage to match the left/right camber. The caster may not be exact, but it's close and it feels good.
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