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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Fri, Aug-11-2017, 08:56:14 PM   #61
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I think 1/2 turn is the most you want up front, but I've actually found the car feels better with a bit more in the rear.
Yep, front is pretty much full soft always - they are stout.

Rears are most comfy at full soft but the handling is phenomenal around 3/4 to 1 turn BUT comfort suffers notably at slower vehicle speeds. Full soft is, for me, the best compromise as the chassis control is still excellent even at very high vehicle speeds over large crests, for example - zero floatiness.

I could see running a bit more out back if the average vehicle speed was high and roads smooth.

This is with stock springs, of course.

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I put the fronts around 1/4 turn and went for a ride. You could feel the difference but I didn't like it.
So I set them at full soft and turned them a tad for not being at full soft. The rears remain at full soft.
I like it guys. Handles nice absorbs well so Iam leaving it like this.
Corrected the front toe cause I have to pass MOT but I want to do a full alignment from the start.
Yep, it's tough to beat, overall. Handles super tight, decent comfort and calm chassis = win, win and win. I grade suspension on the annoyance scale and this is definitely the least annoying, haha.
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Yeah, you want the front as soft as possible (spring rate and valving) for best street manners - the front should glide while the rear keeps the chassis poised. This is opposite a "performance" setup which stiffens the front dramatically relative to the rears. The catch 22, though, is that low and soft don't work well together so it's a fine line.

Your car hits hard due to lack of front travel. These cars have roughly 2.5" of bump travel at stock ride height and you've probably used up a least a full inch just sitting still. Restoring travel would help immensely over the medium/big stiff but the small stuff will always be firm simply due to the spring/shock combo itself.
How do I add back some front travel while still keeping this same setup?
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Old Fri, Aug-11-2017, 10:31:17 PM   #63
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How do I add back some front travel while still keeping this same setup?
Camber plates like GC and Turner street with thinner than stock stack heights.

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raise the car (if lowering springs - raising coilover height would not gain travel as spring is the same).
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How do I add back some front travel while still keeping this same setup?
GC 'Street' camber plates will give you back 23mm without affecting ride height and little to no affect on NVH.

The Turner plates may work, too, but I haven't used them so can't verify and increase they may offer.
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The Turner plates may work, too, but I haven't used them so can't verify and increase they may offer.
I eyeballed a fat 5/8" maybe 11/16
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I eyeballed a fat 5/8" maybe 11/16
Oh that's awesome. I'd love to try them someday - maybe next time I lower the car.
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Hi guys. Just saw an email from ECS Tuning about Koni's being on rebate, so I looked up a full set of struts and shocks and it was only $724, minus a $70 rebate. That seems like a really good deal...a couple other good sites were totaling about $900 before rebate. I'm only at 65k miles on my convertible, so probably another 15-25k (?) miles before needing to change, but if I'm saving at least 15-20% over what I would spend in the future, I'd considering buying them now.

What do you think? Is that a fairly "normal" price relative to the last few years? A great deal? Hopefully it helps others who are looking to buy these if it's a good deal.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-koni-par...kit/e46m3koni/
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Hey guys, still trying to make a decision on springs before I pull the trigger and order my Konis. After reading this thread numerous times, and taking everybody's suggestions into consideration, I'm torn between the Dinan and Eibach springs.

Again, trying to retain factory ride quality, but would like to get a subtle drop to compliment my stock 18" wheels.

From what I understand, the Eibach springs give a little more drop over the Dinans, but which of the 2 will provide the best ride quality and level stance?

Anybody have any side profile photos of either setup on stock 18's?



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Hey guys, still trying to make a decision on springs before I pull the trigger and order my Konis. After reading this thread numerous times, and taking everybody's suggestions into consideration, I'm torn between the Dinan and Eibach springs.

Again, trying to retain factory ride quality, but would like to get a subtle drop to compliment my stock 18" wheels.

From what I understand, the Eibach springs give a little more drop over the Dinans, but which of the 2 will provide the best ride quality and level stance?

Anybody have any side profile photos of either setup on stock 18's?



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I haven't experienced dinans, but fwiw, I run the konis with eibach springs, rear on 1/2 a turn (50% soft/hard) and fronts on basically full soft. Started out with the fronts harder but after loosening them up, the car doesn't feel underdamped by any means and is a bit more forgiving on rougher roads

Though I don't have experience with other similar setups, I think it's a real nice setup for a street driven car that occasionally has to go up/down driveways and rougher roads. Nicely lowered but not excessive

Not stock 18s, but 18s nonetheless:

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I haven't experienced dinans, but fwiw, I run the konis with eibach springs, rear on 1/2 a turn (50% soft/hard) and fronts on basically full soft. Started out with the fronts harder but after loosening them up, the car doesn't feel underdamped by any means and is a bit more forgiving on rougher roads

Though I don't have experience with other similar setups, I think it's a real nice setup for a street driven car that occasionally has to go up/down driveways and rougher roads. Nicely lowered but not excessive

Not stock 18s, but 18s nonetheless:

Thanks for chiming in, so the Eibach's are firm enough for your driving needs, from the sounds of it? Thanks for the pic, looks like a decent drop! Nice wheels btw, Apex square setup?

Anybody here with Dinan springs?

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