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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sun, Dec-18-2016, 01:21:44 AM   #21
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I run Ray's closed end lugs with Studs. Some prefer seeing the stud ends others prefer the look of lug bolts. I got the look of bolts with the added benefits of studs.

What size studs you running? Looks clean. I figured only the extended open-end lug nuts would work in a stud application.
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I run Ray's closed end lugs with Studs. Some prefer seeing the stud ends others prefer the look of lug bolts. I got the look of bolts with the added benefits of studs.


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What size studs you running? Looks clean. I figured only the extended open-end lug nuts would work in a stud application.
They're harder to find in shorter lengths because everyone wants to go full Bro (race applications excluded). The Macht Schnell 45mm studs work great. I ran them with Rays short closed end aluminum lugs without any issues. Looks the best IMO.

http://machtschnell.com/competition-...rsion-kit.html
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Does anyone have any experience or feedback for Gorilla Automotive studs? I have a set from a previous car but unsure as to the quality of these and whether or not they are good/strong enough to be used on a track dedicated car.

Thanks in advance!
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Old Fri, Aug-11-2017, 03:07:27 AM   #25
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I've been thinking about doing one as well. Makes taking wheels off and on much easier.The only thing holding me back is the look. Imo normal wheel bolts look better.
late reply but since i am looking into it as well... closed end lug nuts
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late reply but since i am looking into it as well... closed end lug nuts
Really? Why? Looks?

I don't understand why open ended lug nuts would bother anyone?

Anyway, I could machine such lug nuts, not a huge undertaking, if they don't exist. However, the risk is (with the various wheel applications and stud lengths) that a blind hole lug nut could bottom out on the thread, before they are tight on the wheel, which would be pretty dangerous.
So in order to avoid that, one would have to design the nuts extra long, thus making appearance really not all that nice either, which kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

FYI, making a blind threaded hole is slightly more difficult than a through hole, because you have to either single point it on the lathe, which takes longer than tapping it. You could roll tap it, but such taps have lead ins, which brings me back to my original point.......they would get really long and fugly.
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Really? Why? Looks?

I don't understand why open ended lug nuts would bother anyone?

Anyway, I could machine such lug nuts, not a huge undertaking, if they don't exist. However, the risk is (with the various wheel applications and stud lengths) that a blind hole lug nut could bottom out on the thread, before they are tight on the wheel, which would be pretty dangerous.
So in order to avoid that, one would have to design the nuts extra long, thus making appearance really not all that nice either, which kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

FYI, making a blind threaded hole is slightly more difficult than a through hole, because you have to either single point it on the lathe, which takes longer than tapping it. You could roll tap it, but such taps have lead ins, which brings me back to my original point.......they would get really long and fugly.
Not difficult at all if you order correctly sized studs. 45mm studs work perfectly with closed end lugs and no spacers.
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Not difficult at all if you order correctly sized studs. 45mm studs work perfectly with closed end lugs and no spacers.
Agreed, if you know exactly what size you are using, then it is not difficult.

I was looking at it from a point of offering a universal lug nut like that, and then you will run in to issue where guys have different lenght studs and spacer and sooner or later someone will bottom out the nut on the stud, and not the wheel.

I always look at making something in high volume to keep cost per part low enough. Making one set would not be cost effective at all.
BTW, I was under the assumption no one is making such parts, since the previous two posts suggested so. There is a good chance someone is offering something like that.
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