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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Thu, Jul-21-2016, 03:17:19 PM   #1
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Default New CF Driveshaft Coming To Market

THE LINK TO THE GB THREAD IS HERE: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=572603


Hey guys, I've been wanting a cf driveshaft for quite some time now, but so far to date...the current offerings all appear to have issues (from poor fitment to questionable high-speed vibration). I saw this over on Bimmerb**st, and decided to take the plunge as one of their beta-testers. I'm SMG, so fitment will be my first concern...I'm cautiously optimistic that it will fit w/o (or very minimal) clearance issues. I'll post back up after installation/testing is complete...could be several weeks, so don't get your panties in a wad waiting for updates.







NOTE: This is NOT manufactured at the same facility as the one sold by Fall-Line Motorsports according to MFactory:







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Here is the question/answer that I posed in regards to the MFactory's ds being the same as the Fall-Line unit:







Q. Hey Michael, received the ds over the weekend, thanx for the fast shipping! Ok, so quick observation...my buddy recently purchased a cf ds from Fall-Line Racing, and the one I received from you appears to be identical? You said that this is not the same ds...so, I'll ask again...are you 100% certain this is not the same? The Fall-Line ds appears to have high-speed vibration issues-I don't want that. Can you please offer an explanation? Thanx!



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A. These are not the same, no. You should have no vibration issues.







Thanks!






Here's the link to the Mfactory cf driveshaft:







http://www.****************/showthre...ng-for-testers!







UPDATE WITH GB PRICING (after successful testing is completed):







It is indeed hard anodised 7075 aluminium, and weighs only marginally more than the first DS. Shorter carbon tube, but slightly more aluminium. We're just doing the final balancing on your DS, and can hopefully ship this out to you next week. If you could let me know the tracking after you've shipped back the other DS to us, that would be great







These actually cost us $100 more to make, but that won't change the final pricing:







MSRP: $1499.95



10 Confirmed Buyers - 30% Discount off MSRP ($1050) + shipping



15 Confirmed Buyers - 35% Discount off MSRP ($975) + shipping



20 Confirmed Buyers - 40% Discount off MSRP ($900) + shipping







50% deposit, then remainder 50% + shipping when they are ready to ship



Shipping to NA/EU/AU via UPS: $150



Shipping to other countries: TBD







PIC OF GEN II D/S:















Finally got another chance to weigh up the new Gen II d/s and the factory unit. The factory d/s felt wayy heavier than the MFactory cf one, but here ya go...queue up the drum roll please...







Factory d/s (scale varied from 18-19lbs.)













MFactory cf d/s (scale varied from 10-11lbs.)



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Default Re: New CF Driveshaft ComingTo Market

Links don't work, but that's exciting! Looking forward to your impressions when/ if you can post them
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Default Re: New CF Driveshaft ComingTo Market

...and of course the link no workie over here on M3FM. I copied the text from the other forum, but of course the pics didn't make it over. Oh well, at least it's something...


Hey guys,

With a few extra samples of our 100% Dry-Carbon Driveshafts left in stock, and @Sticky testing our E92 M3 DCT fitment, we are looking for a tester with an E46 M3 MT to help us out also.

MSRP is $1499.95 + shipping


Some images of our processing:

Dry Carbon Fibre Spool
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Dry Carbon Fibre Weaving
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Dry Carbon Fibre Weaving (closer image)
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Dry Carbon Propshaft anyone?
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Finished Product (This is for GT86)
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MSRP will be $1499.95. This is around $100 more expensive than our competitors, but we are the only company to make them from 100% Dry Carbon Fibre (you can google wet vs dry carbon), and the only company that can balance them to 12000rpm with minimal vibration. During back-to-back comparison tests, all of our competitors carbon propshafts vibrated like crazy once spinning over 5000rpm, as none of them possess the machines that we do to manufacture custom joints to within 0.02mm tolerance. Ours are also stress tested to withstand over 5500nm torque (that's over 4000lbs)

FWIW, of all the carbon propshafts we tested, the PST was the only one to come close to ours in terms of strength, which snapped at 4700nm. Don't even get me started on the DSS! lol.

If anyone knows anyone who would be interested in helping us test the current "M" fitments that we have in stock, please ask them to contact us.

P.S All of the current propshafts have been tested for over a year now; just not in the US market, hence why we are looking for US-based testers to help us with promotion



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Links don't work, but that's exciting! Looking forward to your impressions when/ if you can post them
Yeahya, I still remain hopeful that someone can manufacture a viable cf driveshaft for our cars...please let it be this one!
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I found the link over at bimmerboo$t

I am really curious to see if they live up to what they are saying, in regards to the vibrations at high rpm.

That is a deal breaker for me. I would not want any vibrations from the driveshaft.

Also if will becomes easy to remove unlike others.
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I found the link over at bimmerboo$t

I am really curious to see if they live up to what they are saying, in regards to the vibrations at high rpm.

That is a deal breaker for me. I would not want any vibrations from the driveshaft.

Also if will becomes easy to remove unlike others.
Yeah, me too, that was one of the first conversations that I had w/them...and I'll repeat, this one is not produced by the same facility as the one sold by Fall-Line.
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Yeah, me too, that was one of the first conversations that I had w/them...and I'll repeat, this one is not produced by the same facility as the one sold by Fall-Line.
Well that was the one I was referring to the Fall-line/VAC one.

I was reading that the e92 guys were getting a lot of vibration above 5,000 rpm.

I believe the Fall-line/VAC one did not that have the issues from removing like the others did.
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I believe the Fall-line/VAC one did not that have the issues from removing like the others did.
Sorry, not sure I understand this statement?
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Sorry, not sure I understand this statement?
Other companies ( NOT fall line/vac ) had issues where once you installed the driveshaft it could not be removed. You literally had to break/destroy the driveshaft to remove it which made it a no go for maintenance purposes.

From what I read the fall line/vac one did not suffer from this issue and could be removed without damaging.

Not sure how this driveshaft has the removal process engineered into it.

All CF driveshafts so far has suffered from the vibrations at high RPM's
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Other companies ( NOT fall line/vac ) had issues where once you installed the driveshaft it could not be removed. You literally had to break/destroy the driveshaft to remove it which made it a no go for maintenance purposes.
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