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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Thu, Jun-08-2017, 05:19:41 PM   #21
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Default Re: Are there any steering shaft extensions (cabin side) to get the wheel towards dri

I know they make spline extenders for 4x4 vehicles:


http://www.4x4parts.com/i-18981754-s...extention.html

Maybe you could have something custom made from a machine shop?
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The reason the E36 received poor crash test ratings in 1994 was due to the steering column design. Removing the tilt function somehow prevented it from encroaching and causing injury in the form of the steering wheel and column impaling the driver.

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The 3-series' cabin became structurally unstable during the frontal impact and the driver ran a risk of life-threatening chest injury. The distance by which the steering wheel was displaced backwards posed further risks of injury, while stiff aggressive structures in the lower facia area also added greatly to the chances of the driver sustaining serious knee, thigh and pelvis injuries. In the side-impact test, protection for the driver's abdomen failed to meet coming 1998 legislation for new models.

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In the frontal impact, the 3-series suffered excessive movement of the screen pillar. The cabin became unstable, the driver's door lost structural integrity and the beam supporting the facia became partly separated from the car's side. The driver's door could be opened by hand after the test, but moderate force was needed. The passenger's door could be opened normally. The steering wheel was pushed backwards by 223mm (8.8in) and upwards by 14mm (0.6in). The impact resulted in excessive footwell intrusion, with the brake pedal being pushed rearwards by 321mm (12.6in). The standard-fit airbag triggered late and failed to offer adequate protection; the steering wheel also intruded too far into the car's cabin. This intrusion might have increased the probability of serious injury for different sized drivers or those in different seating positions. Neck protection was good. High levels of force transmitted via the seat belt, and the driver's chest hitting the steering wheel with sufficient force to bend it badly posed a high risk of injury. Facia-level intrusion and the instability of the cabin may have added to the level of hazard for different-sized drivers or those in different seating positions, so chest protection was down-rated to 'poor'.
It stands to reason that side airbags were added to combat this 1997 rating as well. Be careful with this modification.
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Modify a spare stock steering wheel to protrude the wheel portion out towards you. Then have re-covered in mat'l of choice. GL with the quest.
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Old Thu, Jun-08-2017, 05:53:23 PM   #24
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If I could get the wheel tilted which, would be so awesome for a 5'3" person like me.
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I have the old 4 spoke bus wheel. I guess I could get the later 3 spoke M wheel which is slightly smaller and sexier. Newer wheels such as the 1M wheel have incompatible airbags with our cars, correct?
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I know they make spline extenders for 4x4 vehicles:


http://www.4x4parts.com/i-18981754-s...extention.html

Maybe you could have something custom made from a machine shop?
That's a quick fix, not bad for those of us who run without an airbag.

I was thinking of making a "racing" wheel type adapter, but for stock wheels. It would consist of 3 parts; a column side hub, a replaceable tube, and a wheel side hub. The column mating side would have all the mounting for the OEM slipring. The tube would allow you to set the length (by means of ordering the size(s) you want) and carry the extension wires up to the wheel.

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Why did you do an airbag delete by the way? Was it because you wanted an E46 wheel?
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Do you already have the US M3 coupe 3 spoke in your sedan? If not, you might look into that. It's noticeably smaller diameter than the 4 spoke "bus wheel". I felt it helped slightly in just the way you mention (knee/leg clearance). Granted, I'm only 6', not 6'3" like you. But I have the same complaint...would love the steering wheel another inch or two further back.
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I have the old 4 spoke bus wheel. I guess I could get the later 3 spoke M wheel which is slightly smaller and sexier. Newer wheels such as the 1M wheel have incompatible airbags with our cars, correct?
Do you guys know this with complete certainty? When I was looking at recovered wheels a few years ago, I couldn't find any info that said this was true. I've been under the impression that the 4 spoke and 3 spoke M3 wheels were identical in diameter. So I just stuck with the 4 spoke. Gonna be super frustrated if there really is a diameter difference... haha.
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Do you guys know this with complete certainty? When I was looking at recovered wheels a few years ago, I couldn't find any info that said this was true. I've been under the impression that the 4 spoke and 3 spoke M3 wheels were identical in diameter. So I just stuck with the 4 spoke. Gonna be super frustrated if there really is a diameter difference... haha.
There are two different 3 spoke wheels. The 4 spoke and Euro 3 spoke are 385mm. The later M 3 spoke wheel is 10mm smaller.
http://www.frankies-bmw.com/3series/...ring_wheel.php
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There are two different 3 spoke wheels. The 4 spoke and Euro 3 spoke are 385mm. The later M 3 spoke wheel is 10mm smaller.
http://www.frankies-bmw.com/3series/...ring_wheel.php


Edit: This guy says the M 3 spoke has a diameter of 385
http://www.frankies-bmw.com/3series/...heel1small.jpg

^^This wheel is a POS. Too damn big.
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