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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Wed, Dec-21-2011, 06:51:50 PM   #11
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Have you tried just unplugging it?
The alarm and keyless entry will not work, or parts of it. I don't remember the details.
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Very nice write up. My mirror is currently with this issue and i will be sending it out to you guys shortly for a repair.
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Just sent my mirror in for repair about a month ago to radar-mirror. Looks great, works great, and came back fairly quick considering I sent mine out on a Friday! Thanks Scott!
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Old Wed, Dec-21-2011, 07:57:37 PM   #16
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Can you please elaborate on the transparent conductive material that is injected between the layers of glass?

I assume that it was originally a fluid and at some point it changed to a gel. Do you know when that happened? Do both Magna Donnelly and Gentex now use gel? Do both companies use the same substance?

Can you describe the toxicity of these substances? It sounded like the fluid was very harmful, what about the gel?

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AFAIK all of the Gentex mirrors use the gel, I'll have to crack one of the newer Magna mirrors apart to see if they're using gel or still using the fluid - so far all of the ones we've seen were all liquid. I'm not sure if the gel is toxic like the fluid, I can do some testing when I have time and let you know what I find.

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How hard is it for someone to open one of these up and clip the wire that dims the mirror? Those with tint wish there was a way to disable this feature.
If you've never opened one before and don't have the correct tools it's very hard to open the mirrors without breaking all the clips - especially the oval mirrors. I would do what maveric23 suggested and just unplug it if you don't want it to dim.
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The alarm and keyless entry will not work, or parts of it. I don't remember the details.
If you own a vert unplugging the mirror will disable the keyless entry and the alarm led. Coupes would only lose the alarm led. If anyone really wants to disable the auto dimming they can ship their mirror to us and I'll do it for free, just cover the shipping.
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Nice info, congrats on the sponsorship! Your mirror systems are bad ass!
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My mirror doesn't have any bubbles in it, but it doesn't seem like it auto-dims at all. If it does, it is rather subtle. Does mine need repaired? I have a 05/01 build date and my mirror is the oval type w/o clown nose. On a semi-related note, is it possible to retrofit the clown nose and LED so I can tell when the OEM alarm is armed, or do I need to buy a different mirror altogether?
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Nice info, congrats on the sponsorship! Your mirror systems are bad ass!
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My mirror doesn't have any bubbles in it, but it doesn't seem like it auto-dims at all. If it does, it is rather subtle. Does mine need repaired? I have a 05/01 build date and my mirror is the oval type w/o clown nose. On a semi-related note, is it possible to retrofit the clown nose and LED so I can tell when the OEM alarm is armed, or do I need to buy a different mirror altogether?
Check the fuse that powers the mirror - if the fuse is good and the mirror doesn't dim there's something wrong. Just send it in and we'll sort it out. I can add the alarm led to the mirror if I have a lens available, they tend to fall off the mirrors and get lost easily so they're hard to keep around. I can't guarantee the light will blink if the car wasn't set up for that from the factory. My car has the clown nose SOS mirror and my light doesn't blink but I don't have the alarm installed. The light blinked when I first got my car but a ecu update made it so it wouldn't blink anymore.
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