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Old Thu, Apr-16-2015, 04:12:55 AM   #181
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Default Re: Review 996 Porsche 911 Brembo Brakes Installed!

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After reading different threads I still have some questions...



I will be using rallyroad brake lines and front/rear brackets....I know p0lar makes some but at the time he is not available.





-front caliper machining 5mm or 5.5mm?? I can have rallyroad machine but the turn around time and shipping may be higher than my local machine shop.



-rear pad setup to avoid rust ring?



-recommended pads for aggressive street/canyon driving and potentially some light track use on a NON-DAILY spring/summer car.

I'm same boat. Rally road has my fronts as we speak.

5.5mm off fronts.

No info on rust ring of rears.

Pads are preference. HP+ is good mixed use but noisy on roads at stops. Ebc yellow looks good, gonna see if I can find some reviews. If you want less track-ability cool carbons are really nice, ran those on my old 135i.


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Default Re: Review 996 Porsche 911 Brembo Brakes Installed!

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After reading different threads I still have some questions...

I will be using rallyroad brake lines and front/rear brackets....I know p0lar makes some but at the time he is not available.


-front caliper machining 5mm or 5.5mm?? I can have rallyroad machine but the turn around time and shipping may be higher than my local machine shop.
This depends on RR's brackets, ask eric@ - I know he's made a few revisions to his brackets, he'll be willing to help.

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FRONT BRAKE PAD: FMSI D917, Application, 2002 Porsche Boxster S Front Brake Pad
REAR BRAKE PAD: FMSI D737, Application: 2002 Porsche Boxster NON-S Front Brake Pad

Yes, they're both "front" brake pads, but the pads themselves couldn't tell you what their fitment or application is so just trust me, for the appropriate rear brake pad for the E46 M3 with no rust ring, purchase the FRONT brake pad from a 2002 Porsche Boxster NON-S 2.7L.

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Textar for the street, and just swap them out to whatever your driving style engenders for the track. If you feel a compromise in circumstantial or environmental brake torque is an absolute requirement, reasons not withstanding, you won't find much help here - only gobs of unsubstantiated opinion.
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Default Re: Review 996 Porsche 911 Brembo Brakes Installed!

Are there any other pads that brake and feel just as good as textar? Or close to it? My textars squeel like crazy when braking from 10mph down. Sounds like a school bus even worse.

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Old Thu, Apr-16-2015, 03:32:49 PM   #184
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Are there any other pads that brake and feel just as good as textar? Or close to it? My textars squeel like crazy when braking from 10mph down. Sounds like a school bus even worse.
Bed your brakes in again. Find a safe place (left to your discretion) and perform 6-7 60-10 mph aggressive stops without activating the ABS. If you don't smell brake pad by that point, try once more or until you do. After that, try to drive several minutes without coming to a complete stop to allow your pads and rotors to cool.

I can't imagine they would still be squealing after that.

That being said the OEM Porsche pads are made by Textar; however, Textar also sells their own compound that is slightly different than the OEM Porsche compound. Try purchasing the OEM Porsche pads if you're unsatisfied with the Textar-branded noise.
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Should I clean the surface of the rotor? Remove it and scuff it up a bit? Or just re bed them the way they are?

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Should I clean the surface of the rotor? Remove it and scuff it up a bit? Or just re bed them the way they are?
I've never had to do that, but it can't hurt. If I had to do it, I'd use a rough grit sand paper to scuff it up, then coarse steel wool to break up whatever is left.

Alternately, if you feel like pulling the rotors, you can take them to any place that turns rotors and ask them to scuff them on a lathe using a scotch-brite rotary pad. That puts an excellent cross-hatch pattern on them in rapid order. If they don't have to cut the rotors (I advise against this), they may not charge much at all, if anything.
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Wow thanks for the help. I'm gonna do this tonight and report back

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Default Re: Review 996 Porsche 911 Brembo Brakes Installed!

Hello Everyone,
I am bumping this up as I am about to pull the trigger and order the following.
I'd like some assistance/input as i've searched through the threads on this subject and either missed (or did not see) some information. Also if someone can chime in with some vendors which offer the best pricing it would be helpful... (any where to cut costs and not sacrifice quality would be ideal as this build is becoming pricey.)
Please see my questions below in red.
Note: this will be installed on a 2002 M3.

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ORDERING FROM RALLY ROAD:
Front and Rear brackets and front and rear stainless steel brake lines = $529.00
(this is pretty much a set price from what I can tell as options are rather limited. p0lar- if you have the rear brackets I will take them from you asap)

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ADDITIONAL PARTS NEEDED
(currently I was looking at ECS- I am open to other vendors if they offer cheaper pricing etc.)

>FRONT ROTORS
2 piece CSL front semi floating rotors ES#2677765 = 529.00
Can anyone tell me if these are worth it, or if i should go with just the regular rotors? I am looking for a good quality rotors that will not warp.

>REAR ROTORS
slotted and drilled rear csl rotors ES 2190238 = 239.95

> 5mm spacers w/ bolts -
ES#: 205203 = 69.95
(as my front wheels are 19x 8.5 ET35 and will not clear the calipers)

> FRONT BRAKE PAD:
"FMSI D917, Application, 2002 Porsche Boxster S Front Brake Pad" (as shown above in this thread)
ES#: 2581221 Textar Boxster Roadster S front pads $110.00
Are there any other recommended pads which arent as pricey which will work well? i dont want any squeeling

>REAR BRAKE PAD:
"FMSI D737, Application: 2002 Porsche Boxster NON-S Front Brake Pad" (as shown above in this thread)
ECS= ES#: 1942766 Textar Boxster roadster pads= $90.31
are these the right front pads to use to avoid the rust ring and make the best surface contact? Are there any other recommended pads which arent as pricey which will work well? - i dont want any squeeling .

>wear sensors?
any input on what to get? Id assume id be purchasing the ones for these porsche calipers and splicing them in???? I have not read any information on this and id ideally like to avoid having the light on the dash - Also if there is a write up- or instructions on how to wire this properly it would be greatly appreciated

>fluid
there seems to be a debate on this, can anyone chime in with their preference and amount needed

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I am going to put together a complete build thread on this with pricing, step by step instructions with pictures and a review. Yes its pretty straight forward however I have yet to come across this- i feel it would be helpful to the community and anyone else in my situation.
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Default Re: Review 996 Porsche 911 Brembo Brakes Installed!

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Hello Everyone,
I am bumping this up as I am about to pull the trigger and order the following.
I'd like some assistance/input as i've searched through the threads on this subject and either missed (or did not see) some information. Also if someone can chime in with some vendors which offer the best pricing it would be helpful...
Please see my questions below in red.
Note: this will be installed on a 2002 M3.

_______________________________________________

ORDERING FROM RALLY ROAD:
Front and Rear brackets and front and rear stainless steel brake lines = $529.00
(this is pretty much a set price from what I can tell as options are rather limited. p0lar- if you have the rear brackets I will take them from you asap)

_________________________________________________

ADDITIONAL PARTS NEEDED
(currently I was looking at ECS- I am open to other vendors if they offer cheaper pricing etc.)

>FRONT ROTORS
2 piece CSL front semi floating rotors ES#2677765 = 529.00
Can anyone tell me if these are worth it, or if i should go with just the regular rotors? I am looking for a good quality rotors that will not warp.

>REAR ROTORS
slotted and drilled rear csl rotors ES 2190238 = 239.95

> 5mm spacers w/ bolts -
ES#: 205203 = 69.95
(as my front wheels are ET35 and will not clear the calipers)

> FRONT BRAKE PAD:
"FMSI D917, Application, 2002 Porsche Boxster S Front Brake Pad" (as shown above in this thread)
ES#: 2581221 Textar Boxster Roadster S front pads $110.00
Are there any other recommended pads which arent as pricey which will work well? i dont want any squeeling

>REAR BRAKE PAD:
"FMSI D737, Application: 2002 Porsche Boxster NON-S Front Brake Pad" (as shown above in this thread)
ECS= ES#: 1942766 Textar Boxster roadster pads= $90.31
are these the right front pads to use to avoid the rust ring and make the best surface contact? Are there any other recommended pads which arent as pricey which will work well? - i dont want any squeeling .

>wear sensors?
any input on what to get? Id assume id be purchasing the ones for these porsche calipers and splicing them in???? I have not read any information on this and id ideally like to avoid having the light on the dash

>fluid
there seems to be a debate on this, can anyone chime in with their preference and amount needed

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I am going to put together a complete build thread on this with pricing, step by step instructions with pictures and a review. Yes its pretty straight forward however I have yet to come across this- i feel it would be helpful to the community and anyone else in my situation.
With the rotors you chose, the pads look correct.
Rally Roads brackets have been re-designed and are just fine. If you can't get a hold of p0lar's... his will just help you save a few bucks.
Yes, get the applicable Porsche sensors and splice with your OE. Or don't use them at all. I understand you will not get the service light if you just have them snipped and tucked up there in the cabinet.
I would get the caliper dampers as well.
You'll need lines.
And OE fluid is just fine if you're not tracking. It will perform the same and last much longer.
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