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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Dec-03-2018, 02:59:46 PM   #11
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Labor to change synchros is a lot more than buying and converting an smg box. Few work on these trans - I have read of a handful in the US over the years. It’s beyond must DIYers. I think a 50 ton press is needed.

Diffsonline may be ECS’s supplier (Turner is just a shell following its purchase by ECS). Metric Mechanic might do them. Lscman is a member here who occasionally does them. VAC might have a source. Maybe Fall Line. There are few since Getrag does not sell parts.

You could use a ZF320 5 speed. You could adapt to a ZF GS6-53 (adapter plate, clutch, flywheel, linkage all needed).
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turner may be associated with ECS now, but they were racing these cars long before ECS was a twinkle in the internets eye.

i've heard this urban legend about it being assembled in a million degree oven and it's impossible to take apart. i have a hard time accepting that as it would be the only instance of that ever happening i'm aware of. who the **** makes a transmission that can't be serviced?
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Old Mon, Dec-03-2018, 04:26:27 PM   #13
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Getrag. It is a special transmission. I can rebuild the GM automatic in the regular E46 and most manual transmissions, but not this one. The tools and parts are not available to the public. No urban legend on this one.
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Old Mon, Dec-03-2018, 04:55:53 PM   #14
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$6700 for a rebuilt transmission. Wow I would just buy a whole car for half that and get everything. We buy a lot of wrecks and part them out. Copart is available to the public now you can download the app and check the auctions and find a car and bid.


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expensive for sure, but if it's a known-good unit, that's better than brand new, i kinda get it.

i also understand that nobody has been able to easily source the parts and tools....but i really struggle with accepting that this ****ing unicorn turd of a box is so mega special and made of unobtanium that it can't be serviced. maybe nobody has been interested enough to figure it out, but that it's unpossible makes me do the Jackie Chan

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expensive for sure, but if it's a known-good unit, that's better than brand new, i kinda get it.

i also understand that nobody has been able to easily source the parts and tools....but i really struggle with accepting that this ****ing unicorn turd of a box is so mega special and made of unobtanium that it can't be serviced. maybe nobody has been interested enough to figure it out, but that it's unpossible makes me do the Jackie Chan
The problem isnt the tools, the parts simply aren't available.
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but if turner is building boxes for retail availability.....the parts are available somewhere.
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expensive for sure, but if it's a known-good unit, that's better than brand new, i kinda get it.

i also understand that nobody has been able to easily source the parts and tools....but i really struggle with accepting that this ****ing unicorn turd of a box is so mega special and made of unobtanium that it can't be serviced. maybe nobody has been interested enough to figure it out, but that it's unpossible makes me do the Jackie Chan

I mean Iím skeptical of the claims of it being better than new, and a new transmission can be bought from BMW for about $4800. I donít know why Iíd pay $2k more for an aftermarket rebuild.
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if new ones are available for $4800 i'd tend to agree for a street car. the REM process for the gears is beneficial in a racing environment....particularly in the SCCA T2 class this was probably originally sold to.
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Two years ago BMW Canada quoted me almost $17k for a new Getrag, or about $6500 for a rebuilt one. Can't recall if that included labour. In the end the problem wasn't the transmission itself, so thankfully I didn't have to go there.....
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