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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Thu, Dec-06-2018, 01:07:39 PM   #31
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Default Re: Fix SMG or Swap to Manual

Spend the $1300 extra and swap to manual. You will enjoy your car a lot more a few months down the road and will easily recover the difference when you sell. The SMG isn't bad, but having a manual for only $1300 more is a no brainer. You will learn how to drive it so don’t worry too much about that part.
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The first sentence in that article mentions dual-clutch not single.
It's a dry clutch system, having two clutches helped with engagement, but the difference isn't significant as it pertains to the issue that caused the recall. Because the clutches are dry, there is a lack of thermal capacity relative to a wet clutch system, which is the fundamental problem.

The other issue is that people would drive those cars the same way as an automatic which would lead to excessive clutch slip and make the system work even worse.
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Old Thu, Dec-06-2018, 09:56:51 PM   #33
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The only way to get good at manual is to DD it. If you go that route, you won't be thinking about it within a month.

A properly done swap will be worth more than an SMG car for the foreseeable future. If we reach a point where very few SMGs are left, that could change-- but that's decades out (and once parts are NLA, I'd imagine, so you can't keep it going, making them rarer).

On track, SMG is probably better, at least if it's not overheated...
... which has happened 75% of the time I've tracked an SMG car

Relocation bracket should solve that, though.
I don't see that ever happening. They didn't make many Sportomatic 911s either and no one has any desire for them still 50+ years later.
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Old Fri, Dec-07-2018, 12:20:51 AM   #34
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I had SMG, enjoyed it. Pump died so I converted to Manual. Enjoyed it more. Probably helped that I drove manuals my whole life before the M3 so it just felt "right" to me. Also I wanted a manual originally but found a super clean smg and jumped on it. So basically what I'm saying... I don't know wtf I'm saying! For me, manual was always the way
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I should have just kept my vette. Anyway, I am fixing the SMG and later relocating the pump and accumulator when the brackets are ready for sale, hopefully soon. She is being towed to the shop next week, wish me luck.
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I should have just kept my vette. Anyway, I am fixing the SMG and later relocating the pump and accumulator when the brackets are ready for sale, hopefully soon. She is being towed to the shop next week, wish me luck.
At least you can buy all the parts for the M3 unlike the Vette.
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At least you can buy all the parts for the M3 unlike the Vette.
Domestic OE's are terrible about continuing to manufacture parts leaving the user with the choice of used or whatever the hell chinese part AutoZone has
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I relocated my SMG a few months ago myself did not do the motor refresh either. I am at 114k Miles (highway miles) already since I bought the car at 100k in Jan. I plan on keeping my SMG because I really prefer it over a manual. I had an E36 M3 before that was a manual and I loved it, but SMG is another beast if you figure out how to drive it.
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