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Old Wed, Feb-13-2008, 03:39:14 AM   #1
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Default Anyone concerned about major mechanical issues?

I mentioned to a friend of mine who owns a BMW dealership my intention to buy an M3 in the next year and he warned me to wait at least a year before making a purchase. He brought up the early E46 M3s (remember those exploding engines) and the experience he had with early Bangled 7 series (he had to buy back all of the early 7s).

Anyone concerned that there could be significant issues given that the new M3 is sporting a new engine and transmission? Just interested. Thanks.
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I owned the first e46 m3 '01 and now own the e92 m3 and have driven it for 3000km, I had some problems with the e46 but it was all covered by the warranty and drove it for six years and 100,000km, I don't think it's a major issue, if something happens it will be covered by warranty and besides I could not wait 2 years for the new one, it's just freaking awesome!!!!!!!
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I'd be more worried about major depreciation but yes I agree that I wouldn't buy a first year model - especially with the new V-8.
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The early '01 production E46 M3s did not have engine problems. The bearing problems began with the early '02 models 8-10 months later.
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I'd be more worried about major depreciation but yes I agree that I wouldn't buy a first year model - especially with the new V-8.
And see if there are any issues with the DKG as well...
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Yep, From my calculations I expect the first year models to crack pistons left and right.






Not really. I think it will have some problems, but nothing thats gonna be too harsh. They learned alot from the time-bomb V10 in the early M5/6's so I think this will be better off. DKG may be ok though because its not really a new technology being sampled out. I think the SMG in the E46 was one of the first cars to be fitted with that type of tranny. Really I dont know anyone else who may have used the same brand (I'm guess it wasnt a in-house BMW development...or was it?). The tranny in the 360 and Vanquish were of a different manufacturer were they not?

Who developed BMW's SMG transmission???
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The early '01 production E46 M3s did not have engine problems. The bearing problems began with the early '02 models 8-10 months later.

that's right...and BMW did not buy back all the early 7 series either...

you're gonna have problems, hence warranties...
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My father's '02 745Li was a complete and total lemon- 33 times in the shop. Terrible reliability.

My first M3 was an '01 that I bought used (was a dealer demo actually) and it was relatively trouble free. Nothing major went out, just a MAF sensor. With the E92 M3, the the chassis is not totally new since it is basically an upgraded 3 series, and even the engine has been tested somewhat by it being in the M5/M6 in V10 form. Usually BMW is pretty good about testing its powertrains. Electronics... not so much... especially early cars that pioneer new directions like iDrive (i.e. my dad's 745Li).

The only things I'd really be worried about are DCT and less so EDC. They may prove to be reliable but the car is too new to know yet.
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on first year cars? always worried
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i waited one year on the e46 since I wanted SMG...good move as they had the exploding rod bearings issue...

I plan on getting an 09 model as well...IF u can wait, I would recommend it
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