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Old Sat, Nov-19-2016, 12:31:21 AM   #21
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can we all just pitch in a few dollars and cover their $25 spread???
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can we all just pitch in a few dollars and cover their $25 spread???
We appreciate the support, but we have reached the desired discount!

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It’s official, we successfully hit the $325 + free shipping* discount tier!

Going into the weekend, five members of the Group Buy were given the option to edit their discount tier from $350 off to $325 off. All five of these conversion were vital to meeting our 80 participant requirement to achieve $325 off. As of this morning, three conversions were successful, however two did not respond and the deal was in jeopardy of collapsing in on itself.

Thankfully we had two enthusiasts contact us who missed the original Group Buy sign-up window, and we were able to slide them in as replacements.
At this time, the APEX staff is combing through the details of your orders to determine if all wheel specifications and finish options can be produced. Keep your eye’s peeled for your final order confirmation email tomorrow.

Thank you to everyone who participated and for making these designs possible.

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We realized our last update wasn’t clear as to how the deal ended, so here’s a more current deal update.

The Group Buy ended successfully with 80 participants which earned everyone $325 off + free shipping. A few people were unwilling to pay the extra $25 so they cancelled, but during that time a few new participants discovered the deal, and we were able to get the 80 paid participants needed.

For anyone who missed the Group Buy they can still be pre-ordered at a discount on our site. Orders placed in December get $200 off + free shipping. In January it will be $100+ free shipping, and in February just free shipping.

Not all designs, sizes and finishes could be produced. To hit production minimums some people needed to be switched to their backup choices. Everyone who purchased a set should have received an email a few weeks ago specifying the final design/size/finish they will receive. Please contact us if you did not receive your final confirmation.

We broke our own rule of requiring 8 participants per size. On certain fitments we went ahead and produced them with fewer sets sold, but some had such low demand that we had to skip them. Below is a table showing exactly what will be coming in the first batch.


FL-5:
  • 18x10" ET25 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x10" ET25 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x10" ET25 Satin Black - yes
  • 18x10.5" ET22 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x10.5" ET22 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x10.5" ET22 Satin Black - yes
  • 18x11" ET44 Anthracite - no
  • 18x11" ET44 Race Silver - no
  • 18x11" ET44 Satin Black - no
  • 18x8.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x8.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x8.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
  • 18x9" ET30 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x9" ET30 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x9" ET30 Satin Black - no
  • 18x9.5" ET22 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x9.5" ET22 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x9.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
  • 18x9.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x9.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x9.5" ET35 Satin Black - yes

SM-10:
  • 18x10" ET25 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x10" ET25 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x10" ET25 Satin Black - yes
  • 18x10.5" ET22 Anthracite - no
  • 18x10.5" ET22 Race Silver - no
  • 18x10.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
  • 18x11" ET44 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x11" ET44 Race Silver - no
  • 18x11" ET44 Satin Black - yes
  • 18x8.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x8.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x8.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
  • 18x9" ET30 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x9" ET30 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x9" ET30 Satin Black - no
  • 18x9.5" ET22 Anthracite - no
  • 18x9.5" ET22 Race Silver - no
  • 18x9.5" ET22 Satin Black - no
  • 18x9.5" ET35 Anthracite - yes
  • 18x9.5" ET35 Race Silver - yes
  • 18x9.5" ET35 Satin Black - no
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Update: Production delayed. New ETA

This was originally going to be an update informing you of a 3 week delay as production space on the line has been held up by an OEM manufacturer. Unfortunately we were just informed of a production issue that requires significantly more time to correct. Our expected delay just ballooned from 3 weeks up to 8 weeks. You can read more details on why below.

This delay affects everyone in different ways, so we’ve come up with three solutions to cater to everyone’s individual needs. If you were a buyer in this deal, you will receive an email asking you to pick how you’d like us to handle your order. Email is the only way we can process responses. Please do not PM or post here with your selection.

More background on the delay:

In summary, all the crush testing that was performed was done on the incorrect version of each wheel. The wheels that were manufactured and tested were a prior design version that lack our strength/weight optimizations. Correct samples need to be produced and crush testing needs to be redone to receive official JWL/VIA certification. We’re unwilling to compromise on the quality of our product, so we’re re-running every test, even though it’ll take time for all these sizes. We view this as a small bump in the road to delivering on the quality standard that our community has grown to expect.

I would like to personally apologize on behalf of our entire team for the inconvenience this delay may cause.

Thank you in advance for your understanding.

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Default Re: ► APEX | New APEX 18” Wheel Group Buy

Even though the Group Buy has ended, you still have a chance to save on our new FL-5 and SM-10 wheels! Our new wheels are now available directly on our website for pre-order! Visit our website today and save:



E46 M3 with Anthracite SM-10 18x9.5" ET35 wheels.
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Old Fri, Mar-24-2017, 08:13:57 PM   #27
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ETA Update & Samples



Production samples just started arriving at our warehouse. We have an SM-10 in house now and we’re very excited. FL-5 samples arrive soon. Unfortunately, we are forced to add an additional 30 days to the ETA. We’ve documented the reason for the delay below along with some outdoor shots of the SM-10.

This is our 2nd delay, and in staying true to our principles, we will not force anyone to wait. We’re giving all participants 3 options again for processing their orders. If you were a participant in this deal, you will receive an email copy of this message. Please respond to that email with your option choice from the below list. Email is the only way we can process your selection.

The Three choices are as follows:

Option #1: I accept the delay as I want to keep my discount.

We’ll fulfill your order the moment it arrives. You’ll be among the first to receive these wheels and you’re guaranteed to receive the full $375 discount + free shipping*.

Option #2: Switch my order to an in-stock design at a discount.

Some of you may not be able to wait the extra time. If you need wheels right now then you may switch your order to any of our in-stock ARC-8, EC-7 or PS-7 wheels. We will honor the highest discount we’ve ever offered for those designs, which is $200 off + free shipping*. We can ship them right away if you switch. Note: We cannot apply the same discount from this group buy to the older designs as they are not priced the same.

Option #3: Cancel my order and forfeit my discount.

If neither of the options above are acceptable to you, then we won’t hold you prisoner. We pride ourselves in doing what’s right for our customers. Regardless of what caused the delay, we are ultimately responsible. We should bear those consequences not you. There are typically no refunds on Group Buy orders because of the special order nature of these deals. We won’t apply that policy to this deal as the ETA has been moved beyond the original promised ETA again. You may choose to cancel your order and receive a full refund of your deposit. The $375 discount and free shipping* you’ve earned up to this point would be forfeited and may not be redeemed at any time in the future if you change your mind after cancelling.

I would like to personally apologize again on behalf of our entire team if this extra delay causes you an inconvenience.

Thank you in advance for your understanding.

- Eddy Pintacsi
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More background on the delay:

The complex milling on our wheels was not translating from design to final product correctly. We had to make numerous additional iterations to our milling designs to adapt to a production limitation. This issue stemmed from a miscommunication between the engineering department setting up cut paths, and the machine department that was not clearly articulating the limitation differences between the prototyping and production phase. If we boil down the problem to it’s essence, the factory does not have the machinery to produce our original designs. The issue only became inherent on the main production line, which is why it surprised us so recently. The majority of the delay is being spent on re-crush test everything again as we have to validate that our new simulated results match real world results.

In the end we’ve revised the milling of both the SM-10 design and the FL-5 design to work within the new constraints, which ultimately improved them in the processes. The final results are milling designs that we like even more than the originals.

SM-10 specific revision details

The SM-10 originally had chisel shaped milling. It’s been revised to a radius cut instead. The original shape was encountering issues near the center of the spoke because we did not have the 5 axes of control we originally believed we’d have. By changing to a radius we could still get ideal results with fewer than 5 axes.

The image below shows how the design was supposed to be machined, with smooth curves and consistent widths.



The image below is the first unit off the line where we caught this discrepancy. The machining at the center area is not as designed and created stress points.



The image below shows the revised version with a radius cut. The center area is much improved. In making this change we were able to go a bit deeper with our machining and we also like the look a lot more. Check out the Anthracite sample photos lower in this post to see how cool this change looks on a finished product.



FL-5 Revision details

The FL-5 already had a radius cut, but the lack of 5 axis machining was causing the cutter to not track correctly. The mill took excess material off the wheel in an area we didn’t intend. That’s been resolved with just optimizations to the cut path and a revised design that works within the machine’s limits. In the process we reduced the taper and also lengthened the cut so more material could be removed.

Below is a photo showing the FL-5 error were the cutter changed milling widths/depths unintentionally.



Below is an image of the revised machining of the FL-5 which is much cleaner, longer and more consistent.



Sample photos

We have have one 18x10” ET25 SM-10 Anthracite sample in our possession right now. We’ll be receiving 3 more samples over the coming weeks of the FL-5 and SM-10 design in various sizes and concavity profiles.

Below are detail shots of the 18x10” ET25 Anthracite wheel out in the sun.















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NEW APEX FL-5 Production Sample is Here!

The first production sample of the APEX FL-5 wheel has arrived! This is a 18x10” ET25 FL-5 in Anthracite sample. We’ll be receiving more samples over the coming weeks of the FL-5 and SM-10 design in various sizes and concavity profiles.

Below are detail shots of the 18x10” ET25 Anthracite wheel out in the sun.

Sample photos


















FL-5 Revision details

The FL-5 already had a radius cut, but the lack of 5 axis machining was causing the cutter to not track correctly. The mill took excess material off the wheel in an area we didn’t intend. That’s been resolved with just optimizations to the cut path and a revised design that works within the machine’s limits. In the process we reduced the taper and also lengthened the cut so more material could be removed.

Below is a photo showing the FL-5 error were the cutter changed milling widths/depths unintentionally.



Below is an image of the revised machining of the FL-5 which is much cleaner, longer and more consistent.

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