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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Sat, Nov-25-2017, 07:20:33 PM   #1
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Default PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

I am needing to replace my tires and I am considering the PSS or PS4. The M3 is my second car, but I plan to drive it some in colder weather as long as there is no snow/ice. Would they be ok for use during the winter in the Midwest?
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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

Just be sure to drive your car at a moderate speed to let the tires warm up. They won’t be as sticky as a tire made for lower temps. Just beware if your PS4S encounter any patches of ice that all bets are off for control over that surface.
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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

They’re pretty much plastic below ~40* F. If you’re going to run it with the same tire in the winter, I’d get PAS3+s (and still never drive it in the snow/I’ve).
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I agree with Obi, PAS3+s are your best bet.


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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

+1. If you're going to be driving on any frequent basis below 35F or so, go with something else. AS3+ is a great choice

Or alternatively, you could throw a set of winters on, have the option to take it out in all conditions, and get PS4S for summers.
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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

You also risk hurting the summer soft rubber of PS4S in very cold climates when the tire hits hard bumps and cracks in the road. Since the rubber is not designed to be as flexible in below freezing, the hard rubber will become brittle and you could cause cracking on your very expensive summer rubber which will just compromise its performance in the summer.
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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

they work, sort of.

I have PSS and was accelerating moderately hard in 2nd yesterday and the TC light started flashing at me. that was a bit surprising.

I wouldn't let that change your mind though.

PS - where in KS are you? there aren't many of us out here.
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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

I've dailyed mine at freezing temps plenty of times with no problems. It's just snow and ice that are a complete no-go.

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Default Re: PSS/PS4 cold weather viability

I love my pss. As everyone says let them warm up first. The other night the roads were pretty cold, and I just started driving for the night. A camaro pulled out in front of me without looking, and I just slid but didn't hit him luckily.

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They’re pretty much plastic below ~40* F. If you’re going to run it with the same tire in the winter, I’d get PAS3+s (and still never drive it in the snow/I’ve).
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+1. If you're going to be driving on any frequent basis below 35F or so, go with something else. AS3+ is a great choice

Or alternatively, you could throw a set of winters on, have the option to take it out in all conditions, and get PS4S for summers.


How much does the AS3+ concede to the PSS in terms of grip and ride quality?



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they work, sort of.

I have PSS and was accelerating moderately hard in 2nd yesterday and the TC light started flashing at me. that was a bit surprising.

I wouldn't let that change your mind though.

PS - where in KS are you? there aren't many of us out here.


No joke! I just moved to Lawrence from a 4 year stint in the south. Luckily there is an independent shop nearby in case I get in over my head with DIY's.

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