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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Sun, Jul-16-2017, 04:41:08 AM   #1
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Default 00003B: Stall Speed?

Hello,

So I have had a 00003B Engine Stall Speed code on my SMG TCM for a while but I haven't noticed anything odd about the transmission. The yellow SMG cog light only turns on when the car idles for a certain amount of time but when driving the light is out. Mechanically, transmission seems fine - no slipping, no stalling or anything out of the ordinary.

Seems most people who post about this issue here have these issues so I'm trying to figure out what the problem could be in my case. My car has a full TTFS ECU/SMG tune, though I don't believe that is a factor at all.

Any assistance is appreciated. Car is for sale and I have a potential cash buyer interested in the car, though he wants the SMG issue sorted out first so I'm trying to get it solved so the new (potential) owner can be on his way!
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Default Re: 00003B: Stall Speed?

I have had the exact same code for the past 2 winters. No other issues. And only comes on after idling for a little. Heres the catch though, this code will only come on in sub freezing temps when in winter storage. After I clear it It never comes back. Not until winter again. It may be an electrical thing. This happened to me without the ttfs tune which I now have so its not that. Id like to hear others input though because I can't find anything!


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Default Re: 00003B: Stall Speed?

I have had a similar issue for awhile also. Very intermittent. As soon as I restart the car the cog light goes away. I had my indy scan the car months ago. He said it had something to do with my DSC or something like that and how the transmission is unable to sense the speed of the car. He assured me my transmission is fine but there might be a bad sensor related to the DSC. it's so intermittent and doesn't happen often especially after I replaced my alternator that I've decided to let it be for now. My transmission works perfectly as well with a TTFS SMG tune.

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I have had a similar issue for awhile also. Very intermittent. As soon as I restart the car the cog light goes away. I had my indy scan the car months ago. He said it had something to do with my DSC or something like that and how the transmission is unable to sense the speed of the car. He assured me my transmission is fine but there might be a bad sensor related to the DSC. it's so intermittent and doesn't happen often especially after I replaced my alternator that I've decided to let it be for now. My transmission works perfectly as well with a TTFS SMG tune.
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I have had the exact same code for the past 2 winters. No other issues. And only comes on after idling for a little. Heres the catch though, this code will only come on in sub freezing temps when in winter storage. After I clear it It never comes back. Not until winter again. It may be an electrical thing. This happened to me without the ttfs tune which I now have so its not that. Id like to hear others input though because I can't find anything!


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Thank you guys for your input. It is a weird glitch and mine clears when I restart the car as well. Appreciate your time!
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Default Re: 00003B: Stall Speed?

This is what happens when you have a code reader that doesn't read ALL the bmw proprietary codes. Stall speed is a function of torque converters in auto trannies, which an SMG is not. I expect the reader interprets an SMG tranny code correctly as a tranny related code, but the specifics are wrong, because ... it isn't loaded with the BMW proprietary codes.
This can cause completely inaccurate information to be delivered. These readers are fine, as good as the high end readers, for the obdII smog codes required by law, for 02 sensors, etc, but things go off the rails when the code numbers go above these required, smog related codes. they CANNOT be trusted for SMG or anything else really.

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This is what happens when you have a code reader that doesn't read ALL the bmw proprietary codes. Stall speed is a function of torque converters in auto trannies, which an SMG is not. I expect the reader interprets an SMG tranny code correctly as a tranny related code, but the specifics are wrong, because ... it isn't loaded with the BMW proprietary codes.
This can cause completely inaccurate information to be delivered. These readers are fine, as good as the high end readers, for the obdII smog codes required by law, for 02 sensors, etc, but things go off the rails when the code numbers go above these required, smog related codes. they CANNOT be trusted for SMG or anything else really.

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