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Old Sun, May-27-2018, 07:45:31 PM   #81
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As expected..
They are an Italian carmaker and it was their first attempt... I don’t think anyone was expecting a Lexus.
I mean the reviews place it right there with M3's and C63's I dont think it should be selling at ATS-V discounts.

I would love one TBH but I would also equally love an M3 comp, C63S.
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Lol have you seen prices on Julia Q4s? Everyone around here is minimum advertised as 6k discount. Things are a total flop. It a cool car for sure but it’s not done well.
Prices tell only part of the story. Given Alfa's reputation, most people will be weary owning one out of lease or owning a high powered one; so the discounted rate is to be expected. However, this does not directly correlate to the cars' driving dynamic and what it can do on the track/street. A ring time that beats the Panamera turbo is nothing to scoff at, and given its looks, superior sound, and overall sex appeal (it's usually red and Italian after all) to the M3 - I wouldn't lease an M3 over the QF today. So BMW does need to take a look at what Alfa did and improve upon the M3/M4.

Also, nearly every journalist has raved about the QF, touting its superiority to the F8X, C63S, etc. They can't all be wrong, can they? The car flopped in sales, but it's a magnificent machine nonetheless.
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Only thing i’m looking forward to is the prices of older m3’s going up
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Prices tell only part of the story. Given Alfa's reputation, most people will be weary owning one out of lease or owning a high powered one; so the discounted rate is to be expected. However, this does not directly correlate to the cars' driving dynamic and what it can do on the track/street. A ring time that beats the Panamera turbo is nothing to scoff at, and given its looks, superior sound, and overall sex appeal (it's usually red and Italian after all) to the M3 - I wouldn't lease an M3 over the QF today. So BMW does need to take a look at what Alfa did and improve upon the M3/M4.

Also, nearly every journalist has raved about the QF, touting its superiority to the F8X, C63S, etc. They can't all be wrong, can they? The car flopped in sales, but it's a magnificent machine nonetheless.
because most people shopping this segment of cars is looking for a daily driver. All those same journalists that raved about it's performance also raved about the projected horrid reliability, which is not something you want in a daily driver. Didn't help Alfa when various magazines had their press cars die in the middle of testing.
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because most people shopping this segment of cars is looking for a daily driver. All those same journalists that raved about it's performance also raved about the projected horrid reliability, which is not something you want in a daily driver. Didn't help Alfa when various magazines had their press cars die in the middle of testing.

This. The unreliability is much more endearing in an older sports car you take out on the weekend once in a while and can wrench on yourself at your convenience in your spare time.

Both of those statements are likely untrue for nearly all prospective buyers in this segment.



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Why not make it AWD and get it over with? Would drastically increase sales.
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Love the wheels, hopefully those make it into production.
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More power, less weight, still RWD and optional 6MT... but surely will be killed by the “purists” on le internet


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More power? Doesn't it say 340hp?
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