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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Thu, Nov-30-2017, 03:51:02 AM   #11
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Was going to link these, but didn't know they were so expensive (even on sale!).

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...tock-manifold/

Yours are definitely a better value!!
Ouch...At that point, once you factor in welding, you may as well get the real deal Supersprint setup (especially through the 'Group-Buy' pricing)
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Old Thu, Nov-30-2017, 03:55:47 AM   #12
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Ouch...At that point, once you factor in welding, you may as well get the real deal Supersprint setup (especially through the 'Group-Buy' pricing)
Yeah exactly. For some reason I thought they were ~$400 (before the ECS sale). Then it's viable, but it's not worth sinking that much into US headers when you can get Euro headers/replicas for less with no welding needed..
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Yeah exactly. For some reason I thought they were ~$400 (before the ECS sale). Then it's viable, but it's not worth sinking that much into US headers when you can get Euro headers/replicas for less with no welding needed..
I haven't pulled the price for those. Honestly, this is the first time I've seen those cat replacement pipes before (or rather, the first time I have taken notice to them)...but if anyone is interested in them, I'd be happy to check the price I can get these for. I'd be willing to bet I can get them for MUCH, much cheaper than they are listed for in the link you provided. I think people would be shell-shocked by how much SS prices tend to be inflated -- Surely, the Cyber-Monday sale alluded to that.
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Old Thu, Nov-30-2017, 04:49:30 AM   #14
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Shameless plug-for anyone looking to recreate OPís experiment, im selling my oem headers for $50, at that price point youve got nothing to lose!


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I haven't pulled the price for those. Honestly, this is the first time I've seen those cat replacement pipes before (or rather, the first time I have taken notice to them)...but if anyone is interested in them, I'd be happy to check the price I can get these for. I'd be willing to bet I can get them for MUCH, much cheaper than they are listed for in the link you provided. I think people would be shell-shocked by how much SS prices tend to be inflated -- Surely, the Cyber-Monday sale alluded to that.
Sent you a PM a day or so ago Dr. M3an!
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I’m in the process of building a PITT RR like jig. Just need to build the jig for the bottom end.

Check out my TIG style...which needs a lot of work!!! lol









I made the plate for the flanges and welded it to the stand...the wrong way. So had to bust out the grinder and fix it. DOH!



If you can weld...you can fix you’re mistakes. Might have cut that one a little short the first time.




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Old Sun, Jan-20-2019, 06:13:41 AM   #17
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Man.. 2 inch? If you're doing it make them 2.5 inch.
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Man.. 2 inch? If you're doing it make them 2.5 inch.
I've got 2.5" tubing but I'll have to reduce it to 2" to mate up to my BW exhaust which has the standard size flanges.
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Installed mine last week finally. They sat on my bench for a LONG time.

Anyway, midrange increase in response and power along with rasp and smell haha. I left a spare bung for a wide band.

Currently working on 2 more designs. Stepped to 2.5 and the other stock to 2.5”
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