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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Mon, Jan-16-2017, 08:12:45 PM   #1
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Default E46 m3 wheel alignment

I just fitted my car with a set of fresh new continentals and some H&R spring with stock shocks.

Now I'm taking the car for a wheel alignment, I only use the car on the street and my wheel setup is 19" BBS CH 235/35 front 265/30 rear.

Does anyone have some numbers for a good setup?
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anyone?
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Here you go : https://thebuildjournal.com/tech-gui...t-specs-guide/
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Thanks for posting that link.
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Thanks for that info Flow. Someone needs to sticky that.
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"Camber does not affect tire wear"

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I've been experimenting with alignments for a while now and you'd be surprised how much of an impact small adjustments to swaybars can make.

I run TMS front and rear sway bars. There are two holes on each side of the rear swaybar for adjustment. The holes on the end are the softer settings while the holes closer to the bar body are for the stiffer setting. There is also a middle setting with one hole in the further and one in the closer.

The front sway bar has three holes on each side, and you can go 'half steps' between the two as well.

BY FAR the best setting I've found is as follows:

Front:
SWAY : Middle setting (both end links in the middle holes)
TOE : 1/16 TOTAL toe in
CAMBER : -1.8

Rear:
SWAY : Full Soft (both end links in the holes furthest away from bar body)
TOE : 1/8 TOTAL toe in
CAMBER : -1.6

For spirited street driving this setting gives excellent even wear while allowing the full surface area of the tires to be used on turns. Steering has feel and weight and isn't darty as is the case with toe out, or too much negative camber in the front.

It allows for PREDICTABLE neutral handling. Meaning if you want more grip you can get on the gas and transfer the weight to the rear without worrying about it breaking loose too quickly since you have sufficient toe in on the rear.

If you are coming in too hot and understeering, you can ease off the gas and you won't power off oversteer, but the front will simply turn towards the apex. You can drive with the throttle basically and the car handles like both a rear wheel drive car with safe front wheel characteristics.

Running full stiff on the front sway have me terrible understeer with my alignment. Running full soft gave me a very strong rearward bias where you could power oversteer easily with the throttle. It was fun on bends, but did not inspire confidence and felt strange at high speeds. Same unnerving sensation of driving a 911 fast. Having one setting from full soft on the front swaybar (one end link in full soft, another in middle) had a huge impact. Car was neutral, but you had no idea where it was going to break. It was both understeery and oversteery at the limit and driving it was a knifes edge.

Middle setting on the front sway bar was only one SMALL adjustment, but it really brought the entire system together perfectly. Try this setting and I can promise you will be thrilled.

Not aggressive enough for track, but perfect for the streets.
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I've been experimenting with alignments for a while now and you'd be surprised how much of an impact small adjustments to swaybars can make.

I run TMS front and rear sway bars. There are two holes on each side of the rear swaybar for adjustment. The holes on the end are the softer settings while the holes closer to the bar body are for the stiffer setting. There is also a middle setting with one hole in the further and one in the closer.

The front sway bar has three holes on each side, and you can go 'half steps' between the two as well.

BY FAR the best setting I've found is as follows:

Front:
SWAY : Middle setting (both end links in the middle holes)
TOE : 1/16 TOTAL toe in
CAMBER : -1.8

Rear:
SWAY : Full Soft (both end links in the holes furthest away from bar body)
TOE : 1/8 TOTAL toe in
CAMBER : -1.6

For spirited street driving this setting gives excellent even wear while allowing the full surface area of the tires to be used on turns. Steering has feel and weight and isn't darty as is the case with toe out, or too much negative camber in the front.

It allows for PREDICTABLE neutral handling. Meaning if you want more grip you can get on the gas and transfer the weight to the rear without worrying about it breaking loose too quickly since you have sufficient toe in on the rear.

If you are coming in too hot and understeering, you can ease off the gas and you won't power off oversteer, but the front will simply turn towards the apex. You can drive with the throttle basically and the car handles like both a rear wheel drive car with safe front wheel characteristics.

Running full stiff on the front sway have me terrible understeer with my alignment. Running full soft gave me a very strong rearward bias where you could power oversteer easily with the throttle. It was fun on bends, but did not inspire confidence and felt strange at high speeds. Same unnerving sensation of driving a 911 fast. Having one setting from full soft on the front swaybar (one end link in full soft, another in middle) had a huge impact. Car was neutral, but you had no idea where it was going to break. It was both understeery and oversteery at the limit and driving it was a knifes edge.

Middle setting on the front sway bar was only one SMALL adjustment, but it really brought the entire system together perfectly. Try this setting and I can promise you will be thrilled.

Not aggressive enough for track, but perfect for the streets.
THX!
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I've been experimenting with alignments for a while now and you'd be surprised how much of an impact small adjustments to swaybars can make.

I run TMS front and rear sway bars. There are two holes on each side of the rear swaybar for adjustment. The holes on the end are the softer settings while the holes closer to the bar body are for the stiffer setting. There is also a middle setting with one hole in the further and one in the closer.

The front sway bar has three holes on each side, and you can go 'half steps' between the two as well.

BY FAR the best setting I've found is as follows:

Front:
SWAY : Middle setting (both end links in the middle holes)
TOE : 1/16 TOTAL toe in
CAMBER : -1.8

Rear:
SWAY : Full Soft (both end links in the holes furthest away from bar body)
TOE : 1/8 TOTAL toe in
CAMBER : -1.6

For spirited street driving this setting gives excellent even wear while allowing the full surface area of the tires to be used on turns. Steering has feel and weight and isn't darty as is the case with toe out, or too much negative camber in the front.

It allows for PREDICTABLE neutral handling. Meaning if you want more grip you can get on the gas and transfer the weight to the rear without worrying about it breaking loose too quickly since you have sufficient toe in on the rear.

If you are coming in too hot and understeering, you can ease off the gas and you won't power off oversteer, but the front will simply turn towards the apex. You can drive with the throttle basically and the car handles like both a rear wheel drive car with safe front wheel characteristics.

Running full stiff on the front sway have me terrible understeer with my alignment. Running full soft gave me a very strong rearward bias where you could power oversteer easily with the throttle. It was fun on bends, but did not inspire confidence and felt strange at high speeds. Same unnerving sensation of driving a 911 fast. Having one setting from full soft on the front swaybar (one end link in full soft, another in middle) had a huge impact. Car was neutral, but you had no idea where it was going to break. It was both understeery and oversteery at the limit and driving it was a knifes edge.

Middle setting on the front sway bar was only one SMALL adjustment, but it really brought the entire system together perfectly. Try this setting and I can promise you will be thrilled.

Not aggressive enough for track, but perfect for the streets.
Good info, need to play with my sway bar settings
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