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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Wed, Apr-19-2017, 05:11:36 PM   #31
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It does look pretty, I'll give you that.

I just couldn't see myself paying a huge premium for interior color. For what some are paying for it, you could get a full CSL interior instead.
Weren't those trading around recently for somewhere in the neighborhood of $9k or $10k?? I think Cinnamon and Imola are pretty regularly listed for 1,500 -2,500 depending on condition, no? I got lucky that mine was included from the factory with my car. Not that it matters, but it's nice having it as a factory option to the VIN and even nicer in that it was in fantastic condition without having to pay a premium for it. The previous owner kept referring to it as "peanut butter."
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It does look pretty, I'll give you that.

I just couldn't see myself paying a huge premium for interior color. For what some are paying for it, you could get a full CSL interior instead.
I'd rather have the non CSL Imola interior

I use the arm rests, both sides, regularly. I like having side impact airbags. And, I don't like decorative CF.

... and it's nowhere near as expensive as a full CSL interior.
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Old Wed, Apr-19-2017, 05:38:15 PM   #33
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I'd rather have the non CSL Imola interior

I use the arm rests, both sides, regularly. I like having side impact airbags. And, I don't like decorative CF.

... and it's nowhere near as expensive as a full CSL interior.
The arm rest delete, that is something I never understood. I use mine every time I drive. I also don't understand the cup-holder delete for the euro-tray. Maybe it's because I use them, and have no idea what I would store in the euro tray, other than maybe a firearm. It would just accumulate junk and clutter for me. The delete does look "clean" though, but functionally I don't understand it.

I am curious what you mean by decorative CF? Are the CF door cards not significantly lighter?
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The arm rest delete, that is something I never understood. I use mine every time I drive. I also don't understand the cup-holder delete for the euro-tray. Maybe it's because I use them, and have no idea what I would store in the euro tray, other than maybe a firearm. It would just accumulate junk and clutter for me. The delete does look "clean" though, but functionally I don't understand it.



I am curious what you mean by decorative CF? Are the CF door cards not significantly lighter?


Mine came with the euro tray and I just swapped it for the cup holder insert. One of the best things I've done to my car to date since I drive it almost daily. I'm still contemplating whether to do the arm rest delete or not as I feel I'm always leaning on the arm rest while driving.

As for the seats, mine have all the options and I just played around with it until they felt good. These cars are really comfortable to drive in my opinion aside from the long shifter throw, which will be fixed with a SS kit soon.

OP - I have a feeling you are not taking advantage of all the different ways to adjust the stock seats. I'm 6'1" 170lbs and they're far more comfortable than my vw gli recaros.


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Exactly what I got. Best part is they are almost half the weight. It's a 60 lbs weight loss over power OE seats





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The arm rest delete, that is something I never understood. I use mine every time I drive. I also don't understand the cup-holder delete for the euro-tray. Maybe it's because I use them, and have no idea what I would store in the euro tray, other than maybe a firearm. It would just accumulate junk and clutter for me. The delete does look "clean" though, but functionally I don't understand it.

I am curious what you mean by decorative CF? Are the CF door cards not significantly lighter?
No firearm that would fit in my hand would fit in euro tray. If you want a gun holder, get a european dash board and use the spot to the left of the steering wheel:



The CSL's CF door cards are not meaningfully lighter-- 4.4 kg for CSL, 4.58 kg for leather.
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The previous owner kept referring to it as "peanut butter."
Oddly enough, the one cinnamon interior I've encountered always smells like soft pretzels
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I think arm rest delete depends on your shifter. When my car was bone-stock, I used the arm rest, and it was nice to have. I upgraded to a CAE shifter and the thing is bloody horrible and constantly in the way.

I actually didn't know arm rest delete was a thing....thanks forum! Gonna order one now. Haha.
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Old Wed, Apr-19-2017, 06:28:03 PM   #39
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No firearm that would fit in my hand would fit in euro tray. If you want a gun holder, get a european dash board and use the spot to the left of the steering wheel:



The CSL's CF door cards are not meaningfully lighter-- 4.4 kg for CSL, 4.58 kg for leather.
Wait, how is this the first I have heard about the Euro dash!? That is freaking sweet. Is that installed in your car?? I was more so joking about the firearm storage, as I really had no idea what people are storing in them to want no cup holders, but that is just awesome! I figure those trays just accumulate receipts, change, and trash, but look "cool" because they have a sliding door. While I like the CSL's CF center console, no arm rest, no cup holder, no storage, it just seems pointless beyond eye candy. Now that dash storage, If I could find one relatively inexpensive, I would totally add that. Lots of crazy people where I live. Just a couple weeks ago I was driving, and some how I managed to be the only car in the vicinity to drive right into the path of an ABSOLUTELY RAGING PCP user that decided to jump out in front of me at a stop light, charging me and my car, and screaming for me to run over him. I got lucky that a cop turned on to the street right at that moment, and quickly flagged him down as hospital security just stood there watching with absolutely zero assistance. That would be an awesome spot to store a fire arm. I wonder how big that cubby space is? I would probably need a more compact weapon, as I would be shocked if 1911 will fit.

I must say, I am really happy to hear that the door panels are not much heaver than the CSL. I would never trade my cinnamon on aluminum panels, so I am glad to see that their weight is nearly the same. I would have expected them to be much lighter.

Sorry for being OT, but with the disappearance of OP and the threat of him selling his car if we don't fix his issue, I figured I would just flow with the natural conversation of the thread.
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Weren't those trading around recently for somewhere in the neighborhood of $9k or $10k?? I think Cinnamon and Imola are pretty regularly listed for 1,500 -2,500 depending on condition, no?
Yes, I was more referring to when some are now paying a huge premium purchasing the car.

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I use the arm rests, both sides, regularly. I like having side impact airbags. And, I don't like decorative CF.

... and it's nowhere near as expensive as a full CSL interior.
Me too, but I thought you were after all the weight savings there are? I guess those are compromises you aren't willing to take, I get it.
I wouldn't mind CSL front and rear seats though.
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