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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Apr-10-2017, 02:10:38 AM   #21
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

That's a great question and I'm perplexed as well. Perhaps the winters are a much harder compound and so slower wearing.

I just know that when I used to run .20ish toe per side I chewed through summer rears like crazy. Halving that solved this for me. Your camber is perfect.
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

So you think I should try to run 0.10 toe? The specified range on the spec sheet is 0.13-0.23.
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

Haha my Blizzak LM60 winters got chewed through. But my PSS are fine. I add camber to the PSS and then flattened it out for winters. I wonder how squirrely the back gets with near zero negative toe?
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

For comparison, I run a moderate amount of camber for both F&R (-2.5 and -1.5) but right around 0 degree total toe. Two sets of PSS tires on my M3 have lasted between 25k-30k miles. Then again I'm on a square setup so I also rotate tires periodically.
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

Michelin gives a 30k miles warranty only for square setups. For a staggered setup it's 15k miles.
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

Good luck with warranty, their 30k claim is only for non staggered fitments with proof of proper rotation.

Like others check the RTAB, all you need are limiters on each side to correct the issue
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

If my rtabs were bad wouldn't my winters wear badly too?

My buddy that works at the BMW dealer says he sees 8k max out of pilot sports. The roads here must be particularly harsh on them.

If I can get a discount set via warranty I may just sell them and switch brands.
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

Not sure what you're going to find that grips like a super sport with better wear.

Pilot Sport 4S is the replacement for the super sport though. Supposed to wear better.
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Default Re: Pilot Super Sport - awful tread wear ?

Honestly, for as hard as I don't drive the car I guess I don't need all this grip, if it means I need tires ever year.
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So you think I should try to run 0.10 toe? The specified range on the spec sheet is 0.13-0.23.
Yes, ~.10-.13 toe in per side, rear.
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