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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Mon, Apr-10-2017, 10:31:54 AM   #41
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You need to remove the plastic expanding rivet on the upper column cover. That upper cover and the lip you described is one piece... not sure if you're think it is multiple or not.
He already removed the fastener, which is a plastic screw in an expanding clip, technically different from expanding rivets used in other places.

But yes, the upper piece is impossible to remove, without taking the stalks off, which simply click out. Even on my cars with tilt column, with it in lowest position, I can not remove that upper piece with only the fastener removed.
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He already removed the fastener, which is a plastic screw in an expanding clip, technically different from expanding rivets used in other places.

But yes, the upper piece is impossible to remove, without taking the stalks off, which simply click out. Even on my cars with tilt column, with it in lowest position, I can not remove that upper piece with only the fastener removed.
Yes, I removed the plastic screw fastener and anchor (#20 in the diagram). The piece is free. It is the lip that rolls under the main dash that won't come free. Do I need to drop the steering column by removing the two fracture bolts (#3 in the diagram). I'm hoping the answer is no. I don't even know how you do that as it looks like the bolt heads are removed at install.

Maybe I can drill and mount with the piece in place? That looked pretty hard to get a drill lined up without a right angle attachment or the like.

<sigh> I thought this would be a relatively easy job. I should know there are no easy jobs

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Come on guys, you're overthinking this.

They are gauges. It's not like you have to stare at them all the time. Just a quick glance and you know if it's in the normal position.

The VDO gauges on the sunglass pocket works really well, unless you need to be all fast and furious.
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Yes, I removed the plastic screw fastener and anchor (#20 in the diagram). The piece is free. It is the lip that rolls under the main dash that won't come free. Do I need to drop the steering column by removing the two fracture bolts (#3 in the diagram). I'm hoping the answer is no. I don't even know how you do that as it looks like the bolt heads are removed at install.

Maybe I can drill and mount with the piece in place? That looked pretty hard to get a drill lined up without a right angle attachment or the like.

<sigh> I thought this would be a relatively easy job. I should know there are no easy jobs

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Yeah that lip with the rubber strip on it.

Like I said, even with my tilting column on lowest the piece won't come out.

Just remove the stalks and try again. That is enough for me. Maybe not with the non-tilting column, but I have no experience with a non-tilting column car.
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Come on guys, you're overthinking this.

They are gauges. It's not like you have to stare at them all the time. Just a quick glance and you know if it's in the normal position.

The VDO gauges on the sunglass pocket works really well, unless you need to be all fast and furious.
It is not so much fast & furious but a preference. And I'm hardly an age where I can relate to fast & furious. I like the idea of the gauges in the normal sightline. Plus the RallyRoad pods are beautifully made. I think they'll look great and perform great. Beautiful form and function. What could be better?

And I'd still like to know how to get that damn trim piece off!
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...Beautiful form and function. What could be better?

And I'd still like to know how to get that damn trim piece off!
I've now told you a few times to take of the stalks. Have you done so?

What could be better? How about this:


Nothing will beat this for OEM-ness. Same applies to E36 OBC, possible with the OpenOBC project.
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I've now told you a few times to take of the stalks. Have you done so?
The stalks? Which are you referring to? Sorry if I'm being thick.

Do you mean #3? If so, how do you remove them? There is no bolt head.

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Uh....really?

The stalks, as in indicator/wiper stalk. Not a steering column part.
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Uh....really?

The stalks, as in indicator/wiper stalk. Not a steering column part.
Not familiar with the term. Anyway, they are not in the way. There does not seem to be enough clearance to remove the upper trim piece because the lip of the trim (the edge with the rubber trim) cannot clear the space between the steering column tube and the dash. My guess is that the steering tube has to drop maybe 1/2 inch to get the clearance. I'm trying not to force it because I don't know if the trim is suppose to clear as is (maybe the rubber gives way under enough force).

If anyone has done this, please chime in!
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gauges on the sunglass pocket works really well, unless you need to be all fast and furious.
I'm gonna have to disagree, but only from a track driving point of view. If there's a warning light I don't think you'd even notice it when it's that far away from line of sight so that kind of kills the whole point. I like the A pillar or a dash mounted pod, but yes it's a bit track looking. Some would even go as far as to call it ricey but I'm not ashamed of my rice boy tendencies. this is how I mounted a wideband in my last track car, pretty clean IMO:



You could do something similar with the side vent on the E36. I had three other gauges on the dash which didn't "look" very good, but this placement was good for visibility.



I'm surprised no one has come up with a clean looking pod for the E36 to place gauges in this position. There's a perfect spot for it:



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I have A pillar gauges as well. Sunglasses tray is not an ideal location. I have a Helix DIRECTOR remote custom mounted there and I never look at it when the car's in motion. The steering wheel mounting option offers the best visibility but it makes my steering wheel look like a Mickey Mouse so I decided against it.

I custom molded the gauge pod on the A pillar and covered it up with suede. The look is flawless and OEM like.

I think Innovate Motorsports still makes the gauges that most resemble the stock cluster. I had them modified by Marshall Instruments (the supplier for Innovate Motorsports) to match my dashboard.



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This looks great IMO and gives good visibility. I would potentially go with something like this for my own car.
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