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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Wed, Feb-08-2017, 10:11:52 PM   #41
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Default Re: Bring a trailer: 100-Mile 1995 BMW M3 Lightweight

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This isn't due to a bubble. It's due to the fact that the car has 100 miles on it, was one of 130 or so, and it is 22 years old.

A bubble is when there's a huge shift in demand. As in, thousands - if not hundreds of thousands people bidding/buying the sale type of product. That's not what this is. This is going to be purchased by a museum, dude with a shit load of money to burn, or mega collector.

EAG had their car for sale for $199K. We do not know what they ultimately got, but that was over a year ago and the price seems to be about what this BAT auction will get and what EAG got (assuming they negotiated the price a bit). That's not indicative of a bubble. It's indicative of what a 1995 LTW with 100 miles on it goes for at market value.
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Want to see what a bubble looks like; just review what happened in 2014-15 to 993 Porsches. That was a bubble. Some may argue it still is.

When a ratted out 993 Carrera goes for $60k and a Carrera S for close to $100k it should make you stop dead in your tracks and exclaim "WTF!"

I'm willing to wager most e36 M3 owners have driven (or ridden in) a 993 Porsche before. Nice car and everything but it certainly isn't worth 5-10x what a well sorted e36 M3 is. In fact, for the *same* money, I think I'd still rather have my e36 M3. It's just that good.

People are starting to figure it out, e36 M3s are a freaking bargain....maybe not this LTW, but that's a different animal altogether.
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"The only bubble this car will see is what it'll sit in for the rest of its life." that makes me sad.

I'd prefer that these cars stay low low... so more people can use them for what they were built for..... racing, driving, enjoying...... not polish and show-off in a museum. (booooring)
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Old Wed, Feb-08-2017, 11:44:23 PM   #43
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The only bubble this car will see is what it'll sit in for the rest of its life.
Indeed. http://carcapsule.com/
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Old Thu, Feb-09-2017, 12:52:15 PM   #44
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Another E36 on BAT...

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-bmw-m3-24/

1995 with 75K - questionable engine work - $11.5 - 6 days to go.
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The only bubble this car will see is what it'll sit in for the rest of its life.


That's probably true.
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.......maybe not this LTW, but that's a different animal altogether.
I, imho, don't agree. It's different, but not thát different and certainly not a different animal altogether.

That doesn't mean it's not nice.

But it is what it is. A standard M3 coupe with some nice parts fitted from factory and some nice parts deleted from factory.

And engine handpicked off the line. Still same stock US motor. So the ones that made a few more ponies made it into the car. Big deal.

Sure it's a collector car to some, but the driving experience of that car is just the same as any other run of the mill US M3 coupe.


I'd take a few mint EU spec models over that single one.
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Old Thu, Feb-09-2017, 02:14:53 PM   #47
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The local car dismantlers in my area are taking the bad cars off the market at an alarming rate. I couldn't find anything cheap, even though I am willing to do a full restore on it (for track use though).

I had to buy a ratted out 325i chassis since there were no decent M3s for sale for 3 months in the NYC area. Even the horrible ones I looked at ended up off the market very quickly.
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The local car dismantlers in my area are taking the bad cars off the market at an alarming rate. I couldn't find anything cheap, even though I am willing to do a full restore on it (for track use though).

I had to buy a ratted out 325i chassis since there were no decent M3s for sale for 3 months in the NYC area. Even the horrible ones I looked at ended up off the market very quickly.
Agree with you, used to be here in the NorthEast you could find a basketcase E36 for 450-1700 all the time now finding just finding one has reached tough times. We campaign two e36 lemons cars so finding spares at cheap rates is always crucial.

I have grown a bit tired of BAT comments in the auctions as there are so many keyboard warrior's that love to bash at anything, while never placing bids. It's hard to get away from negative these days, so maybe I'll have to refrain from reading the comment area from now on.

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I, imho, don't agree. It's different, but not thát different and certainly not a different animal altogether.
While we can debate the merits of whether a LTW deserves "different animal" status but there's no denying it from a market point of view (the bidders / buyers of LTWs are the proof).

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+1

Want to see what a bubble looks like; just review what happened in 2014-15 to 993 Porsches. That was a bubble. Some may argue it still is.

When a ratted out 993 Carrera goes for $60k and a Carrera S for close to $100k it should make you stop dead in your tracks and exclaim "WTF!"

I'm willing to wager most e36 M3 owners have driven (or ridden in) a 993 Porsche before. Nice car and everything but it certainly isn't worth 5-10x what a well sorted e36 M3 is. In fact, for the *same* money, I think I'd still rather have my e36 M3. It's just that good.

People are starting to figure it out, e36 M3s are a freaking bargain....maybe not this LTW, but that's a different animal altogether.
Got to drive a silver 993TT a few years ago. I will admit though, I was just cruising as it was my coworkers pride and joy.

While it looked amazing, I didn't see what the big deal was. He bought it for $50k a few years ago. I don't even want to know how much money that car is now worth.

And completely agree with the E36 being a bargain. The only other car I'd consider in this bracket is an S2000.
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