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Old Wed, Feb-01-2017, 02:09:31 PM   #21
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The DCT seems to be very reliable so far. Of course, they are all now 4-9 years old. Since they are new, we do not know how they will be from 8-18 years. A new DCT pump is supposedly pretty expensive. Still, I would buy a DCT if I bought another M3 and I have the 6MT.
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So sorry. Forgot to check in with you before posting a comment that coincides with your thought and beliefs. Don't worry about me wanking or having anything to add.
lol, the dying cult of the manual always gets so butthurt. It wasn't about checking in with anyone or my opinion, you gave a non-answer in a thread and instead pushed your own opinion. It's like if someone asks what wine to pair with a particular cheese and you say milkshakes go great with cheeseburgers. Great, but doesn't answer the question.
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lol, the dying cult of the manual always gets so butthurt. It wasn't about checking in with anyone or my opinion, you gave a non-answer in a thread and instead pushed your own opinion. It's like if someone asks what wine to pair with a particular cheese and you say milkshakes go great with cheeseburgers. Great, but doesn't answer the question.
Do you think manuals are a thing of the past, and DCT is the future?
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Old Fri, Feb-03-2017, 01:03:49 AM   #24
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lol, the dying cult of the manual always gets so butthurt. It wasn't about checking in with anyone or my opinion, you gave a non-answer in a thread and instead pushed your own opinion. It's like if someone asks what wine to pair with a particular cheese and you say milkshakes go great with cheeseburgers. Great, but doesn't answer the question.
Butthurt??? Dying cult??? Man, you got it all figured out.

Moron.
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Do you think manuals are a thing of the past, and DCT is the future?
Check the sales figures and declining number of models offering a manual. Ferrari and Lamborghini stopped offering it altogether already, MB and Audi also don't offer manuals. Sales for the E92 were overwhelmingly in favor of DCT, increasingly so in the later years.

Yeah, the transmission is on its last legs and will die. Whether that's before electric cars take over or not is unknown, but it doesn't have long to live. DCT and even regular old torque converter auto (they've gotten faster and are now also better than manuals) is the future for ICE performance cars, but ultimately the future is in EV.

I'm not the type that gives a shit about tradition, etc. and don't find the process of pressing a pedal and moving a lever any more engaging than flipping paddles or just plain 'ole driving the car and letting the machine handle the mechanics, so long as the results are better.

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Butthurt??? Dying cult??? Man, you got it all figured out.

Moron.
Y'all are clearly butthurt, seeing as now you're resorting to just calling me names lmao. It's also quite funny that the only arguments you guys have left are that it's cheaper, more reliable due to simplicity, and less expensive to repair. Nada on the performance aspect (because you know it loses across the board there)

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Just what I thought, REEEE!
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Going to go out on a limb and assume your E9X is manual.




Do you not like paddle shifters?
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Going to go out on a limb and assume your E9X is manual.




Do you not like paddle shifters?
I have a manual. I have nothing against DCT. If my car came as a DCT, so be it. I don't think DCT will be as reliable over time but that is only my opinion.

My comment was only meant as a joke. But some people use the internet to gauge their personal intelligence, or should I say their ignorance. The latter comment is not directed towards you.
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The DCT, and PDK and DSG, are technological tours de force, and certainly capable of making a quick shift. I think they might be ideally suited for trying to set the ultimate lap time on a track. There's no question they're not as involving as a manual. No reasonable person would dispute that. Shifting a manual is an art, and takes some actual skill to do really well. I think there's still no substitute for them on a street car, and I would never want a dual clutch paddle shift in my SpecE30 race car, either. Not everyone is willing to make that investment in skills development, however, and really there's nothing wrong with that. To each his own. It is a shame, though, that more and more people now days choose auto or dual clutch because they just don't know how to drive a manual. That's sad.
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