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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Tue, Apr-11-2017, 12:27:06 AM   #401
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Is the brownline angle gauge any good? I heard that the Eastwood angle wrench wasn't that accurate....

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I couldn't say. I use a fancy CDI torque wrench for all this stuff now
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Old Tue, Apr-11-2017, 02:09:06 AM   #403
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Funny you mention the brownline tool, yes it's good, but not for rod bearings while lying on your back. Because, if you swivel off from perpendicular with the bolt within the first 10 or 20 degrees it starts beeping because it thinks there is an error, or you're in ratchet mode defeating the whole beep at set angle concept. I bought it thinking it would help out because I could concentrate on the stroke instead of looking at the angle gauge that hides behind the subframe.

I'm sure for many applications it is very useful, but for this, it's wasted more bolts than done any good. I've been under the car all weekend with this product...

to answer your question, yes it seems accurate (checked 90 and 105 degrees), but finicky for our needs.


Edit: Once subframe was completely removed I hit 11 bolts in a row, or 33 pulls at 105deg, with the 5 degree approaching target beep and final set angle beeps never failing. It has +/-2% accuracy and sticks to the long breaker bars very nicely. So I would recommend it.

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I used a Snap-on techangle -- not cheap, but it made the job really easy.
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I used a Snap-on techangle -- not cheap, but it made the job really easy.
+1 for the tech angle torque wrench. You can get them on eBay all day long for not too much money. Roughly $60 calibrates it at Snap On (including return shipping!).
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Is the brownline angle gauge any good? I heard that the Eastwood angle wrench wasn't that accurate....

the complaints I heard on the eastwood one were mostly due to it being finnicky. Like you have to enter angle mode while tension is on the bolt in the direction you want to turn it. If you don't, you'll add in a few degress of measured angle due to the slack in the ratcheting head itself. Once that tension is on there though, it seemed pretty accurate as far as I could tell (I didn't verify against an analog fwiw).
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I used this also.
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Funny you mention the brownline tool, yes it's good, but not for rod bearings while lying on your back. Because, if you swivel off from perpendicular with the bolt within the first 10 or 20 degrees it starts beeping because it thinks there is an error, or you're in ratchet mode defeating the whole beep at set angle concept. I bought it thinking it would help out because I could concentrate on the stroke instead of looking at the angle gauge that hides behind the subframe.

I'm sure for many applications it is very useful, but for this, it's wasted more bolts than done any good. I've been under the car all weekend with this product...

to answer your question, yes it seems accurate (checked 90 and 105 degrees), but finicky for our needs.
What if I have a car lift? I won't be lying down so will it be easier to use?
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Since it is related to this thread, I have an ultimate digital torque angle gauge available from Stahlwille. It is brand new in original carry case with mini disc instructions, calibration certificate, and mini CD-rom disc manual. 2.5 to 44 ft/lb, 3/8" drive

+/- 1% deviation, yes 1%! This is a $2,000+ torque tool for racing teams, auto manufacturers, and the aviation industry:




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Will sell for much less than half of what the market is asking. Please PM for info. Located in the SF, Bay Area.

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What if I have a car lift? I won't be lying down so will it be easier to use?
Sorry I was going to edit my original evaluation. Yes it is very good once the subframe is completely removed giving freedom to the angle torque stroke. I can recommend it for those who remove the subframe, and possibly for those with a lift. As I've mentioned before that if you go off perpendicular from the rod bolt with your bar within the first 20 degrees of angle rotation but then return to perpendicular it starts to beep thinking your in ratchet mode I think (I can't tell you how much off perpendicular, but the angle readout still seems accurate in the end, I've tested it somewhat to see if I could rely on it even if it started beeping early). After the subframe was removed I had 11 for 11, or 33 pulls in all with the 105degree and not one miss, nor unexpected beeping so I guess that says it all, it's good. +/- 2% accuracy. One more thing, it secures very nicely to a breaker bar and allowed for good leverage and never flipped off or any other funny business.

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