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Old Thu, Apr-20-2017, 11:05:07 PM   #21
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WOW!!! You guys are incredible!! I am sitting on a gold mine here, I could never thank you enough! I will literally read this over and over while I prepare for my first track weekend in June at Roebling Road in Savannah. My 2008 e90 6 speed manual is completely stock right now, as far as I can tell, and it has been well taken care of mechanically and cosmetically. I am currently saving money to start modifying it. It has great tires, practically new, and my brakes are in good shape. A new friend is going to teach me how to change out my brake fluid prior to my first day on the track. It is already turning into an addiction and I have just begun.

I am so excited!! Thank you!! You guys are the best!

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Fantastic thread!

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Side note: It sounds like maybe I should at least upgrade my brakes before hitting the track, and that I should take a few classes at the local motorsports park before Roebling Road. Thank you!!!

ps.. you guys are hilarious! some comments had me lmao through this whole thread, while also learning some incredible shit. Best forum ever!!!
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If you decide to try heroin, use it moderately. Overdosing on heroin isn't fun.

Brakes.. for my first event I changed brake fluid only to RBF600.
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Upgraded safety equipment is never a bad thing. Aggressive street brake pads and fluid isn't overkill for someone just starting out.
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Default Re: If you could only give one piece of advice to a beginner on the track...

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Welcome to the rabbit hole!

In a spin, both feet in.

If you're going to go off track, go off straight and don't try to steer back on.

Drink water, ask questions, be friendly, and don't try to win the track day. The miata is faster than you, so use your mirrors and let them by.

Lastly, and most importantly-- track days and driving schools are NOT RACING. You are not being taught at CCA events how to race, and there are zero points or trophies awarded for being the fastest. Listen to your instructor, check your ego at the door, and you'll have a great time!


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Default Re: If you could only give one piece of advice to a beginner on the track...

Couple of thoughts from my experience and things I wish my students had thought of

1) Take the time to figure out what you want to get out of the weekend, (better driver, improved car control, just wanna go fast, want to be on the podium at Spa) and share it with your instructor.

2) The only prize is a car you can drive home at the end of the weekend.

3) My favorite instructor line , "If to want to impress me you can't and if you are trying to scare me, you already have"

4) Apply the Last ski run of the day theory -- the majority of ski accidents happen on the last run of the day. Most of the incidents HPDE's occur when people are tired and / or want to wring out that last mph during their last session.

5) You will be mentally overloaded often. If you make two mistakes in a row your instructor should have you pit in to discuss. If you make three in a row pull yourself in and regroup.

6) DSC off.

7) Establish a common language with your instructor. What will he/she say when they want you to brake? Get on the throttle? Turn? Allow a pass? Slow for a flag? You will be trying to do three things at once and the less you have to think about or decode the better. I always said, your side or my side instead of left or right, or said brake or brake, brake, brake.... and would make students aware upfront.

8) Never look through the bottom half of the windshield.

9) Learn the track as much as you can before you head out. You will be surprised enough without learning about a blind right hander as you approach it.

10) Drive your line and not the person in front of you. Just because they are in front of you doesn't make them a better driver.

11) Use cool down laps to drive the absolute correct laps. Its a great opportunity to reinforce your marks at a fraction of HPDE pace.

12) Have fun.

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Default Re: If you could only give one piece of advice to a beginner on the track...

There's of course trade-offs for every decision. As an instructor, my default for a new student is always DSC fully ON. Then adjust from there, maybe.

I'm a big fan of #11. I tell my students they've paid for the track, keep using it to learn, including cool down laps.

But again, bottom line OP, please don't take anything in this thread as gospel. Some great info for sure, but when you get in the car with your instructor, listen to him/her explicitly.
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