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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Sep-27-2010, 06:55:46 AM   #31
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lol @ people comparing it to the Z.

To be honest with you guys, I power shifted my Z to death, did donuts, dragged it, never had a clean maintenance record and sold the car to a happy buyer that can't tell if I drove it hard or not.

Two months after getting my ///M and after reading the forums, I've already done inspection II, rtabs, fan clutch, etc. etc. And no, it's not because I waited for it to break. It's all preventive maintenance. 1 month ago, I went to Cars and Coffee and while parking my car, my SMG embarrassingly went out, thank God for the forums for telling me to buy a spare relay and put it on my glove box. How convenient! Now people who think's I'm paranoid have to decided to STFU when I bought that relay. I've never been sooo religious maintaining a car in my life thanks to it's RELIABILITY. LOL


Just being on S6 on the M3 scare's me if I'm going to see my rear subframe on my rear view while driving on the freeway. Oh wait! That's right, there's a fix for that, spend on the damn turner kit THAT SHOULD'VE CAME WITH THE CAR!

I had sooo much JDM friends who told me I was making the wrong decision for jumping into an E46 M3. But nooooo, I had Top Gear and BMW Nurburgring lap times to prove i'm purchasing such a superior automobile.

Everybody in this forum has a fix or rather an excuse for everything.

Rear subframe failure = If you drive it HARD, YOU DESERVE IT!
VANOS failure = just an issue for high revving engines. just gotta deal with it, no worries.
Sagging interior trim = herp derp! it's 40k miles, it's just time to replace these things. ... LOL

All the bullshit excuses in the world like, "the M3 is not a car for drag racing, shut up and just track it, it's made to hug corners. period." Seriously, who are these people who comes up with these things?! lol

I'm stuck with this car for now. So I'll just have to deal with it. Hey, it's got a nice engine and it's an ///M right?

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Ford built tough. Without a doubt

BMW best engineered. I wouldn't go that far.

Still love my car.
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Old Mon, Sep-27-2010, 07:41:47 AM   #33
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Let me see, the cup holders, and console are pretty much crap but I had no issues with anything else.
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Old Mon, Sep-27-2010, 07:52:06 AM   #34
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Reliability can be an issue for sure, but I drove my M3 very hard today for over 9 hours between Dallas and San Antonio and back, not a single hiccup... Through tough traffic, in wide open throttle runs on empty highway, and in bumper to bumper backups at 5 mph stacked up with traffic going thru Austin (twice) and she performed perfectly!

I love my M3!
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Old Mon, Sep-27-2010, 10:02:38 AM   #35
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Stuff will break, and it will be expensive, there is no argument about that. When something goes, just laugh and pay up (makes it hurt less). On top of everything that has needed replacing so far, I still love this car and the reaction that people have when I'm out in it. If you are living paycheck to paycheck, an M3 is not for you! I recommend a 330ci ZHP for a fun "almost M" E46 that looks great, has more than enough power for the average driver, and avoids many M3 specific issues and maintenance costs.

Hi!

I don't want to be a wiseguy as I am a very humble person =) But I have had 3 M3 E46's so the money is not a problem.

The cars: www.garaget.org/philly

Here in Sweden a M3 E36 -93 costs as much as a M3 E46 01 in the states so it's HELLA expensive here.

I got my 04 for a REALLY good price and i paid $37.000, not far from a M3 E92 in the US.

I afford to own and maintain my cars more then you really need, change the oil evey 5000km etc etc..

The thing is that I am very picky about things

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The m3 is definitely not built tough like a Toyota, but the M3 has much more performance.
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All these posts are missing one critical thing: The stuff that breaks on the M3 is stuff that should not be breaking in a $60k car. I couldn't care less about window regulators. But a dodgy tranny, clunky drivetrain (guibo and center carrier mount anyone?), iffy interior quality and subframe issues?!? Geez, anyone who denies poor engineering is delusional.

And I hereby advance-*****-slap the first person who will respond to this post saying "it's a beautiful engine." I didn't pay $60k for the engine. I paid that money for the whole car.
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All these posts are missing one critical thing: The stuff that breaks on the M3 is stuff that should not be breaking in a $60k car. I couldn't care less about window regulators. But a dodgy tranny, clunky drivetrain (guibo and center carrier mount anyone?), iffy interior quality and subframe issues?!? Geez, anyone who denies poor engineering is delusional.

And I hereby advance-*****-slap the first person who will respond to this post saying "it's a beautiful engine." I didn't pay $60k for the engine. I paid that money for the whole car.
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All these posts are missing one critical thing: The stuff that breaks on the M3 is stuff that should not be breaking in a $60k car. I couldn't care less about window regulators. But a dodgy tranny, clunky drivetrain (guibo and center carrier mount anyone?), iffy interior quality and subframe issues?!? Geez, anyone who denies poor engineering is delusional.

And I hereby advance-*****-slap the first person who will respond to this post saying "it's a beautiful engine." I didn't pay $60k for the engine. I paid that money for the whole car.
Yup, well that is actually the point that many of us are trying to make. If these common issues were happening in a car that was 4-9 years old and cost 20k new than not as many people would feel duped. But the fact that this is a high end car that is supposed to be one of the best built cars in the world and cost 60k+ new, that it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Heck, one of the slogans was even "We looked perfection in the eye and perfection blinked", but the quality control and engineering staff must have been on vacation that week.

Now I'm not complaining about most of this stuff, little things like the rear view mirror, wheel speed sensor, starter, etc is not going to break the bank. Its the more expensive items that get you worried. But like I said, as M3 owners we can either laugh or cry. I choose laugh!
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Yup, well that is actually the point that many of us are trying to make. If these common issues were happening in a car that was 4-9 years old and cost 20k new than not as many people would feel duped. But the fact that this is a high end car that is supposed to be one of the best built cars in the world and cost 60k+ new, that it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Heck, one of the slogans was even "We looked perfection in the eye and perfection blinked", but the quality control and engineering staff must have been on vacation that week.

Now I'm not complaining about most of this stuff, little things like the rear view mirror, wheel speed sensor, starter, etc is not going to break the bank. Its the more expensive items that get you worried. But like I said, as M3 owners we can either laugh or cry. I choose laugh!
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