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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Wed, Dec-25-2019, 01:32:36 PM   #61
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Fake news. 3 generations of SMG as well. E46 M3 was SMG II, M5/M6 was SMG III.

Great for what it is, exceptional for what it was. I think I'm ready for a conversion though since im not chasing track times. I think, if I was competing, the SMG would be the better choice.
The SMG was also offered in the 330i E46 and it uses some different components but I have no idea if it’s considered smg II or something else altogether.
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The SMG was also offered in the 330i E46 and it uses some different components but I have no idea if it’s considered smg II or something else altogether.
It was similar in concept (that is an electromechanically actuated clutch rather than a torque converter style automatic) and marketed as SMG in the US, but I think officially it was known as the “SSG” internally. Was also briefly available on the E60. BMW eliminates it as the ZF 6-speed eliminates its “need”
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Old Wed, Dec-25-2019, 08:02:41 PM   #64
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Shrugs, there are some of us out there. Have SMG, have 0 desire to have manual. My knees and stop and go traffic say nope... no.. prefer not. With there being replacement just motors now for the SMG it's a lot cheaper to repair when the time comes. And if not, screw it... at this point whats a few more $$$ when your not planning to get rid of it anyway. Keeping repairing it is still cheaper yr over yr, than a new car. But I also don't drive much in general, and have only put 15k on mine in the last 5yrs, almost to 85k total.

As sacrilegious as it sounds, I'm not an BMW guy. So if I was to get a new car it wouldn't be another BMW. I just always liked the e46 m3 specifically and love it today as much as I loved it when I got it.. hell more actually.
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I think for me SMG is really enjoyable in the same sense owning an old Italian car is. It's technically flawed, clunky, old technology but the sense of occasion and quirks makes it feel different than any other car on the road.

Electrohydraulic transmissions are also very rare relative to all other types of transmissions on the market. Lamborghini continued to produce one for its Aventador even when its had DCT in its other cars for years now arguably because these transmissions induce more drama than DCTs.
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^Great post. I could not agree more.
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"Lamborghini has said that a dual-clutch gearbox isn't emotional enough for a supercar, that's why it uses a single-clutch unit for the Aventador." -Road&Track

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But a 20yr old 3series is no modern V12 lambo with scissor doors and 355 rear tires. Hardly comparable in terms of their purpose, or anything really. But to each their own.
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Going back on what I posted a few days ago on if people would forsake a manual transmission for color/options, I decided it'd be smart to drive an SMG to get a feel for it. One popped up not too far from me so I decided to take it for a spin.
I have driven all the best PDK and a many variations of DCT.
They all feel like a simple automatic really smooth and boring.
SMG is a whole different beast plus IMHO designed pretty well for what it was.
SMG has far more character as far as shifting, jerkiness, and overall operation.

I prefer the Getrag 420G/SMG over the manual all day but i daily a 5MT 2002 Z3M S54 and also currently have an 02 SMG M3 Coupe.

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