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I am interested in an FRP CSL Front Bumper |
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80 | 60.61% |
I am interested in a Fully CF CSL Front Bumper |
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52 | 39.39% |
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Streamline CSL Front Bumper Group-Buy
Now that we are winding down the first round of this Group-Buy (GB), it is finally time that I update this OP as we continue to move forward and plan for a second round of this GB. If you would like to order a bumper (either as part of this GB or independent of the GB, please send me a PM or send me an email to: GroupBuyingPower@outlook.com *If you are reading this, then yes, you we are still taking on orders for all of our products. Details about this CSL-Clone Front Bumper: High-quality CSL replica bumper for the e46 m3 from either FRP or Carbon Fiber composite. The bumper features a four-layer structural brace integrated within its construction. The brace is made from a mesh of carbon-kevlar and fiberglass for the FRP model or BI-axial carbon fiber for the carbon fiber model. The bumper has side fender mounts and comes with a set of 1x1 or 2x2 lacquered carbon fiber splitters matched specifically to that bumper. Mounting requires the bumper-shocks from any e46 other than the M3. The bumper has a plank for the OEM M3 washer-bottle used with the OEM KEVLAR brace. Bumper arrives fully PRIMED for the FRP variant and fully Lacquered for the carbon variant. *Price does not include front grill, or intake grill. The OEM ones can be used/reused* Recent changes that have been made or in the process of being implemented for the CSL Bumper: -Fully redesigned mold made with higher quality resins and gel-coats. -New AERO grade resin used for FRP Bumpers -Modified splitter option - more aggressive splitters available similar to the CSL Concept car -Multiple Molds recreated for quicker creation times -Stainless Steel windshield washer bottle plank instead of normal steel (fits both stock and CSL washer bottle) -Nuts for bumper holders will be placed further back, so that US and EU bumper holders work without an issue. -Bumper Brace will be made from Carbon Fiber and Carbon-Kevlar composites, without FRP making the brace stronger, thinner and lighter -2 Year Warranty will be added to the item ![]() -Full prep of the item is added, so item arrives fully prepped for detailing -Resin is updated for Carbon Items as well -Vacuum technology and creation methods are updates for higher quality items. -Every item will be baked for 2-3 hours after creation -Product number, code, material, date of creation included under the resin on inside of item Weight FRP: 4.5kg Weight Carbon: ~2kg Weight savings FRP: ~ 6-7 kg Weight Savings Carbon: ~ 8.5-10kg Will these bumpers allow the use of other manufacturer's CF front splitters, in the event that I ever need to replace them? YES Any other oem replica splitter will fit 100%. You can even buy an OE Splitter and it will fit, so no worries about that! This bumper was designed like this on purpose. If you ever need to replace a splitter, your hands are not tied solely to this manufacturer. They do offer replacement CF splitters though. Will there be an option for a 1-piece lip instead of the splitters? At this time, the company does not have anything in the works regarding the production of a 1-piece spitter. This may be a possibility in the future, but at this time a 1-piece lip is not something we are offering. We believe that form follows function and thus we chose to stick with BMW's purposefully engineered splitter system. A lot of people think that the CSL splitters are purely visual, BUT the reality is that it tremendously reduces front-end lift over the front axel (the CSL splitters provide an 83% reduction in front end lift over the standard M3). —> That is HUGE! Quote:
No. Unfortunately not, they are sticking to making only the single-intake hole bumper, like the OE CSL bumpers. How does it attach to the car? -This bumper does NOT require an aluminum bumper support like other reps. it uses the exact same mounting system that the CSL bumper uses. Namely #9, 10, and 11 from realoem, as the bumper carrier is built in to the bumper itself, like the original. Should be considerably lighter for you if your car currently uses the aluminum carrier! ![]() Quote:
![]() Is this the same bumper that other car part distributors sell? You know the "EuroSpec" bumper? ...and Is this going to have that inflated "chipmunk cheek" look to it? Nope. Completely different bumper, 100% hand-made in house in Europe. These bumpers have not been released yet. Nothing will leave the manufacturer if the weave, quality, and fitment are not 100%. Let's see some pictures! Full Carbon CSL Bumper -- 2x2 weave, which matches up perfectly with the direction of the 2x2 CF CSL Splitters: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Full Carbon CSL Bumper painted Alpine White with exposed carbon intake hole and 2x2 CF Splitters: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In-house painted Imola Red FRP CSL Bumper with 1x1 CF CSL Splitters AND In-house painted Mystic Blue FRP CSL Bumper with 1x1 CF CSL Splitters: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In-house painted Imola Red FRP CSL Bumper with 1x1 CF CSL Splitters: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In-house painted Interlagos Blue CSL bumper with 1x1 CF CSL Splitters ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In-house painted Carbon-Black CSL Bumper w/ 1x1 CF CSL Splitters ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A short video of the bumper: ![]() Close up video of our Carbon Splitters: Splitters Fitment Video: Some unpainted FRP CSL Bumpers as well as various pictures of both our 1x1 and 2x2 Carbon CSL Splitters: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In-house painted LSB Bumper with 1x1 CF CSL Splitters: (Splitters are resting in place to show both pieces fitting together.) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fitment Pictures: ksa74f's Bumper: ![]() ![]() Gearhead55's Bumper: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Other products that we make, which can be combined with your order: -Full Carbon and FRP Fenders (OE style and vented) -Full Carbon and FRP CSL Bootlid -Full Carbon CSL Diffuser -Full Carbon CSL Roof -Full Carbon CSL Airbox --> Soon-to-be released! Carbon Roofs: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() CSL Bootlids (Full Carbon and FRP): ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Post-Install of Streamline CSL Bootlid -- Customer Review: Another happy Streamline customer! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Full Carbon CSL Diffusers: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Full Carbon Fenders (OE-Style and Vented): ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Information about our design and material considerations -- The Technical details: Update 4/6/17: Quote:
**Shipping Terms: Upon Shipment of items from Streamline, once the items have been collected by the shipper, the responsibility for the items then lies with them and you as their customer. Any damage must be reported to the shipper. Any delay in delivery on grounds of transport error or damage will also be responsibility of the shipper. Myself and Streamline take no responsibility in this case. **Please also note, ALL Streamline composite parts are 'bespoke' and hand-made to order. These are not factory assembly line produced items, and as such, when ordering a bespoke product, there is a waiting period for your item to be created after placing your order. If you would like to order a bumper (either as part of this GB or independent of the GB, please send me a PM or send me an email to: GroupBuyingPower@outlook.com
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2004 E46 ///M3 - Oxford Green Metallic II + Cinnamon SMG IG: DrM3anM3 ![]() Mods: Genuine OE CSL Bumper, Both Karbonius and Streamline CSL Airboxes, OE CSL Snorkel w/ working Flap, OE Map Sensor + OE Air Rail, Paul Claude Custom Tune, CSL Engine management with CSL converted DME, Supersprint V1 Stepped Headers w/ Oversized Catless section 1, SS 2.5" Twin-Piped Oversized section 2, Custom Supersprint muffler, WPC treated rod-bearings, VinceBar (weld) + Redish Plates, Full Beisan VANOS lockdown, BBS LMs w/ PSS, CSL style CF diffuser, Vorsteiner CF CSL Bootlid, CSL SMG Engine DME tune, CSL '255' SMG DME tune. Active Group-Buys (PM if Interested): OE CSL Bootlids, Supersprint Headers/Exhaust MEGA thread, New Supersprint Oversized Twin-Piped Section 2 ...and more to come! ![]() Please PM me - In search of: Nothing at the moment. Last edited by Dr M3an M3; Fri, Jun-22-2018 at 11:20:35 PM. |
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If you can convince them to make a 1-piece lip count me in.
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Might be an incorrect question, but I believe the aluminum front carrier is diff then the Kevlar front carrier. Will this bumper attach to both, or only one? Or do they need to specify which one we have?
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(Diagram linked below) Neither the Aluminum bumper carrier or the kevlar bumper carrier is necessary. Which means more front end weight savings (if you have the aluminum bumper carrier currently on your car)! The bumper carrier is integrated into the CSL bumper itself, just like the OE CSL Bumper. It attaches using left and right bumper shock absorbers (Those with Aluminum bumper carriers have this on their cars already, those with kevlar bumpers would need to buy them.) ~$92 each: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-7...uine-bmw-part/ ![]() http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_4781 Vs. CSL Front Bumper Diagram: ![]() http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_5097
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2004 E46 ///M3 - Oxford Green Metallic II + Cinnamon SMG IG: DrM3anM3 ![]() Mods: Genuine OE CSL Bumper, Both Karbonius and Streamline CSL Airboxes, OE CSL Snorkel w/ working Flap, OE Map Sensor + OE Air Rail, Paul Claude Custom Tune, CSL Engine management with CSL converted DME, Supersprint V1 Stepped Headers w/ Oversized Catless section 1, SS 2.5" Twin-Piped Oversized section 2, Custom Supersprint muffler, WPC treated rod-bearings, VinceBar (weld) + Redish Plates, Full Beisan VANOS lockdown, BBS LMs w/ PSS, CSL style CF diffuser, Vorsteiner CF CSL Bootlid, CSL SMG Engine DME tune, CSL '255' SMG DME tune. Active Group-Buys (PM if Interested): OE CSL Bootlids, Supersprint Headers/Exhaust MEGA thread, New Supersprint Oversized Twin-Piped Section 2 ...and more to come! ![]() Please PM me - In search of: Nothing at the moment. Last edited by Dr M3an M3; Wed, Apr-05-2017 at 03:12:39 AM. |
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these bumpers look very promising. one of my main concerns ...how are nuts for the ASA bolts attached? today streamline posted some pics. this looks like a good solution.
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I'd only be interested if it can be made compatible with the Kevlar bumper support.
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I would be interested if this is the case.
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I want 100% OE CSL exterior shape (can't stand the chipmunk versions), the OE tow hook hole, compatibility with OE CSL airbox ducting, compatibility with OE splitters or similar, and direct mounting to the factory carbon carrier. If they really want a differentiated CSL bumper, carbon carrier support is the way to do it. Shouldn't be overly difficult to do-- just make the interior upper structure using a mold of a later OE non CSL bumper.
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i wonder if streamline can just provide/make a foam support identical to the 2003.5 - 2006 oem bumpers. then all we would need to do is swap over the suction cup area and re-use the existing kevlar bar ![]() |
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