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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 04:53:56 AM   #11
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

I know you said M6, but if you get an E60 M5 in a more subtle color, and don't add any crazy visual mods (bright color wheels, wings, exct), it's sort of a sleeper IMO. It just looks like a mid-to-late 2000's 5 series to most people, and at least where I am, those are everywhere. The "sleepiest" one I ever saw was in downtown San Diego. It was painted in a ruby red that looked like it belonged on an old person's Lexus, didn't have flashy wheels, and it had a beige interior. But, lo and behold, not only was it a M5, it was even a manual. If I as a BMW enthusiast had trouble spotting it as an M car at first, imagine the how under the radar it would be for a regular person! So I think if you are trying to avoid a "showy" car, an E60 M5 might still work. The M6 less so, simply because 2 doors = sports car in non-car people's eyes.

As for the car itself... if it was reliable, I would be actively searching for a stick shift E60 M5 this very instant. Of course, if it had Camry like reliability, I bet it would be worth literally twice what it is now. I wouldn't buy one unless I knew exactly what I was getting into and I had either an amazing warranty and/or a serious amount of discretionary income. Again, as others have pointed out, there is a very good reason they are so cheap, so be extremely realistic with yourself about how much you are willing to put up with in a car. If I was a billionare, I would absolutely have a stick shift E60/E63 in my collection. But, alas, as a regular person? It's not worth the significant price of admission for me personally.
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 06:11:06 AM   #12
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 03:03:04 PM   #13
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

Had an E60 M5 built for me and loved it, from 2006-2009. Glad I sold it at ~38k miles because I never had to deal with the messy costs of maintenance and repairs outside the warranty/maintenance coverage. The SMG was always fine (I know you said manual for you), but I can't believe what I'm reading over on M5Board.com (big M6 community and section there) about engine problems and rod bearings replacements frequently at ~60k miles.

Now I have to ask...what do you really want an M6 for if you already have an E46 M3?

I had the fun of going to the M Driving School in Spartanburg and pounding on E46 M3 Competitions, M5 and M6. You know what I found? I loved the E46 M3 and had the most fun in it. Oops...for the same money as my M5, I could have bought a 2-3 year used "normal" sedan (needed a sedan or SUV for my work) and a new M3! I liked the M3 so much more than either the M5/6 as a fun, fast car to throw around on a track and really push to the limits. The M6 was simply too heavy. It's nice that it's larger in the front compartment, but you feel that weight around every corner. Honestly, I thought my M5 was more capable on the track than the M6.
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 04:11:51 PM   #14
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Same old, still looking for another summer car to add to the insanity.
Was considering the 996 turbo manual, the e92 dct, and lately the m6 v10 manual. Haven't driven the last two, should I bother trying the m6 out? I basically can't take any of them to the corning limit around here and I don't track so that should be kept in mind. I also am a little afraid of looking like a gangster in the m6. The turbo is the most expensive, the other two bmws depend on mileage. A 50k km manual m6 just showed up, should I drive for 3 hours to test drive it? The weather sucks here and I don't want to drag the guys car out for a spin unless it's worth our time.

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Well I am looking to sell my 02 M3 coupe with 48k miles this summer. I’m going to replace it with a 1999 Porsche Carrera and they used a lsd for the 99’ model year only before they upgraded to PSM and later PASM. Fun fact LSD was a very rare option excluding the gt2/gt3 up until the 991 carrera when it became standard. Porsche didnt believe in a LSD for some odd strange reason.

Anyways i would definately think about what type of driving you will be doing... track driving , canyon carving and, small sports car all around go Porsche Carrera... comfortable cruiser, really fast/sounds good and, really cool bmw go BMW M6...

Ive owned an M6 and drove a M5 all over LA canyon roads recently and i can safely say i want one. If your keeping the M3 get an M6 but if your selling the M3 you might want to go Porsche Carrera.
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 05:06:53 PM   #15
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

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As in the internet played through a decent sound system? I have heard several m5's v10 in the real world but they weren't screaming, so I mean on the internet the v10 sounds nuts (as in incredibly satisfying) when it's way up in the revs.
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 05:12:59 PM   #16
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

Thanks, i have zero plans to get rid of my m3, in fact I keep the cars for well over 15 years. We still have our 97 b5 a4 1.8t chipped never winter driven, damn it drives so nicely and looks great from the rear. My wife loves it. So this next one should be with us once I fix it up for a long time, and to an earlier question, I want a car that's cool to drive in 20 years as well. Hence the m6 v10, as the racing engine will look "right" in a coupe 20 years from now, and the extinct high cylinder count engines that rev high will place it squarely in the exclusive club and a real novelty. Fuel consumption and current day enjoyment, as in going to work and back at lunch time in the summer may not be as pleasant as the m3.
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 05:17:41 PM   #17
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

6mt m6 would be nice. Half the issues with that car is smg related. My friend owned one for years with no issues...outside of the smg which left him stranded a few times.

It can look great with the right drop, wheels, and front lip. And that motor!
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Old Sun, Feb-11-2018, 07:47:41 PM   #18
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

I'm going to get flamed for this, but oh well....
Road & Track recently tested a whole slew of hot cars that are currently for sale, and in the top crowd was a Camaro ZL1 1LE in the same category as a Porsche GT3. Road & Track tested both vehicles on the track, and the ZL1 1LE was faster than the GT3, albeit only by some fraction of 1 second I seem to remember. A Tremec 6 speed gearbox, 650 horse and 650 ft/lbs of torque from that LT4, AND a factory warranty if anything does go haywire is fairly amazing. Road & Track picked it and put it as the comparison winner. It's worthy of at least a look at. Just sayin'.... Happy hunting.
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Thanks, i have zero plans to get rid of my m3, in fact I keep the cars for well over 15 years. We still have our 97 b5 a4 1.8t chipped never winter driven, damn it drives so nicely and looks great from the rear. My wife loves it. So this next one should be with us once I fix it up for a long time, and to an earlier question, I want a car that's cool to drive in 20 years as well. Hence the m6 v10, as the racing engine will look "right" in a coupe 20 years from now, and the extinct high cylinder count engines that rev high will place it squarely in the exclusive club and a real novelty. Fuel consumption and current day enjoyment, as in going to work and back at lunch time in the summer may not be as pleasant as the m3.
Started a thread on this here a while ago: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=593904.

I still want one but decided the M3's not done with me yet. And you're right about the V10 coupe thing and the sound and all that. One thing that bugs me is the looks. Needs 5-10k in body (why doesn't anyone make a csl type trunk for these yet, that would fix the flabby backend), wheels, suspension to look right IMO.
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Default Re: Still looking to add another, Anyone tried an m6 manual, v10?

My friend had the M5 and loved it, but he didnt enjoy the upkeep bill. And he said the 13 mpg gets old. Even if you have the moeny for it, having to fill up 2 times for a 500 mile trip would outweigh that exhaust note for me


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