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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Tue, Jan-08-2019, 02:41:44 PM   #31
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why does anyone live in that sh!thole state....


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Old Tue, Jan-08-2019, 03:19:19 PM   #32
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A lot of misinformation in this thread including the original post.

The new California law being cited does not change any equipment requirements, which already prohibit exhaust modifications that make excessive noise. All it does it eliminate the ability to correct the violation by repairing the exhaust, and instead makes fines mandatory. There is no change in noise or equipment standards.

(4) Existing law provides that whenever any person is arrested for certain offenses, including, among other things, an infraction involving vehicle equipment, the arresting officer is required to permit the arrested person to execute a notice, prepared by the officer in triplicate, containing a promise to correct the violation and to deliver proof of correction to the issuing agency, unless the arresting officer finds that a disqualifying condition exists.
Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.

This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.


What that last sentence means is that an equipment violation for noise is no longer allowed to be cured by fixing the exhaust.

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Old Tue, Jan-08-2019, 03:19:31 PM   #33
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I lived in VA for 20 years and thought the traffic law penalties were terrible. Got ticketed for reckless driving in my teenage years (87 in a 65) but had the charge dropped. Moved to NC and thought I gained some breathing room. Boy was I wrong. Saw this a few weeks back.



https://www.dmv.org/nc-north-carolina/point-system.php
Iíve lived in NC for 14yrs and itís not nearly as bad as VA. Cops are literally hounding you for some sort of vehicle violation in VA.
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Old Tue, Jan-08-2019, 03:25:43 PM   #34
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Once I get my fabspeed headers and supersprint muffler, this happens. I’ve seen already videos on people being pulled over by CHP and it is not good at all. I will link it below

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsR8JVrH...d=lybfyvgb1xus
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A lot of misinformation in this thread including the original post.

The new California law being cited does not change any equipment requirements, which already prohibit exhaust modifications that make excessive noise. All it does it eliminate the ability to correct the violation by repairing the exhaust, and instead makes fines mandatory. There is no change in noise or equipment standards.

(4) Existing law provides that whenever any person is arrested for certain offenses, including, among other things, an infraction involving vehicle equipment, the arresting officer is required to permit the arrested person to execute a notice, prepared by the officer in triplicate, containing a promise to correct the violation and to deliver proof of correction to the issuing agency, unless the arresting officer finds that a disqualifying condition exists.
Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.

This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.


What that last sentence means is that an equipment violation for noise is no longer allowed to be cured by fixing the exhaust.
No change in the law, correct. But the point is that every cop will now have his robo-ears tuned to exhaust violators nd they are gung-ho about making a point right now. The first few victims have a simple bolt-on muffler and are getting ticketed. And the bigger point is that if you have headers (or more than a section 3) , you'll be wrenching on your car if you want it street legal after getting one of these tickets and being state ref'd
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No change in the law, correct. But the point is that every cop will now have his robo-ears tuned to exhaust violators nd they are gung-ho about making a point right now. The first few victims have a simple bolt-on muffler and are getting ticketed. And the bigger point is that if you have headers (or more than a section 3) , you'll be wrenching on your car if you want it street legal after getting one of these tickets and being state ref'd
That's pure speculation, moreover, the OP plainly stated that it was an automatic $1,000 ticket for a modified exhaust, and titled the thread "Every CA guy trying to get stock exhaust"

The law does not prohibit exhaust modifications or require stock exhausts, it prohibits modifications that result in excessive noise. Same law exists in almost every state. In fact, in Arizona the law is exactly the same as the new California law, except for the amount of the fine:

A. A motor vehicle shall be equipped at all times with a muffler that is in good working order and that is in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise.

B. A person shall not use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway.

C. The engine and power mechanism of a motor vehicle shall be equipped and adjusted to prevent the escape of excessive fumes or smoke.

D. Beginning with motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines of the 1968 model year, motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines shall be equipped with emissions control devices that meet the standards established by the director of environmental quality.

E. A person who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of at least one hundred dollars.
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But we keep telling ourselves how we're so free.
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Old Tue, Jan-08-2019, 03:39:14 PM   #38
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why does anyone live in that sh!thole state....
Because despite the incredible amount of insanity here, there is a lot to like about it. Though ive only been here 3 years, i dont think this is my final destination, the crap does outweigh the good (at least in Los Angeles).
Didnt know this was actually a new law or enforced.
I'll chalk this law up to all the tards running around in their look at me cause I'm a special snowflake with a charger V8s that sound like ass and the the 4 bangers racing around wot everywhere they go. Zero discretion out here and zero f***s given by these people in neighborhoods/late at night , lets just hope they enforce it on those god awful sounding harleys the same as everyone else. From what ive seen, this wont be enforced to any degree.

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why does anyone live in that sh!thole state....
Born in the SF so. bay area, lived here my whole (long!) life.
For years, it was the most beautiful place I could ever imagine.
Population was growing steadily, but about 10 years ago, seemed like it started growing exponentially.
So crowded now, you either plan every trip carefully, or count on sitting in traffic. Sometimes both... and forget about a quick blast around that windy road.
This latest revenue scheme is just one of series of "our" government's merciless attacks on the automobile/enthusiast.
Long live the DPRK, can't WAIT to get the f*ck out of here.
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But we keep telling ourselves how we're so free.
If you have a SS# tied to your name, you aren't and were never free.
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