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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Mon, Nov-06-2017, 09:23:10 PM   #1
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Default Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

So after reading the DIY and the FYI (Adendum) threads several times I believe I have the parts list narrowed down.

I say narrowed down because I'll be installing the RTD shifter and DSSR, so I dont need to machine the housing for anything. Ill also not use the Gear identification switch, so none of those parts will be needed, correct?

Can someone do a sanity check on the parts highlighted in these pics please? ( I know the shifting arm isnt needed, but thats the part number I searched for to get this diagram)

It does not include a shift boot, or any of the wiring needed (for EWS/pedal/ECU) but I have those on my list.
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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

Are you getting the RTD with the lock out? If no, I would recommend the lock-out version. Don't recommend the non-lockout without machining (detents) as it's too easy to miss 1st with the extended shifter.
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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

I've never used the RTD, but as a point of comparison I put in the AKG shifter which is crazy short. Takes getting used to because of how stiff it is at first, but it's very hard to accidentally go into reverse instead of 1st. I've driven a car done by Kaiv and it's insane how smooth that shifter is, but I still like the "racey" feel of the AKG. Preferences...

Good luck with the swap! Hope everything goes smoothly!
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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

So is the parts list all inclusive, since I'm not machining the housing?

I'll consider the locking shifter, but I really can't see catching reverse on accident.

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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

Your call - I went the exact same route as you had planned originally less than 4 days ago. This is my second SMG-6MT car, previous one had non-machined bellhousing with CAE shifter + lockout.

Looks like you didn't highlight the clutch pedal sensor, I think that's needed. I didn't install my GPS either. I changed my CPV at the same time, clutch, engine mounts and upgraded transmission mounts (Rogue), and braided clutch line. You also need to figure out coding - someone with autologic would be the easiest route.

The CAE setup worked good, but it had the lock-out. The RTD without lock out and no detents, in my opinion is too vague. The built in spring without the physical lock-out feedback along with the extended shifter and higher pivot point makes things really damn close. Not that it's not do-able, but the detents are there for a good reason - I didn't think so at first either, but after installing it and rowing through gears, I drove down the next day to pick up a bellhousing from kevin.
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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

Thanks for the first hand experience information. I may just get the lock-out shifter as insurance, then.

I wont be getting the "race height" or "dorifto" tall shifter. Itll be the shorter one. That said, is the savings on the OE shifter parts worth it if Im getting the shorter RTD shifter?

Thanks for catching the lack of clutch pedal sensor. Ill be sure to order that!
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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

They RTD shifter is fundamentally different in that it mounts to the chassis and has a lot less dampening part to it. I wouldn't look at it from a cost perspective as it's probably only $150 in difference. The RTD gives a more direct short shift vs stock but does induce additional NHV as it's chassis mounted opposed to transmission mounted. Depends on what kind of driving feedback you want.
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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

I planned on getting vibra tech trans mounts, regardless of what I use. A local shop wants 250-300 to machine the housing, so I figured I'd save money and just get the RTD shifter instead of the oe parts and the machine work.

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Default Re: Prepping for 6MT swap, parts list sanity check?

Will there be any difference from vibration standpoint if you just use the rtd and not machine bellhousing? would you need to change motor and transmission mounts?


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Will there be any difference from vibration standpoint if you just use the rtd and not machine bellhousing? would you need to change motor and transmission mounts?


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Based on my conversation with RTD on Facebook, they recommend either upgraded trans and or engine mounts.

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