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Old Sat, Jan-02-2016, 01:20:14 PM   #151
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Default Re: Star Wars Ep7: The Force Awakens thread

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Saw it tonight. Good movie, but not fantastic by any means. Nostalgia carried the movie, IMO, which I feel has some people overly smitten about it. With that said, it was constructed very well with original characters blending seamlessly into the story vs. what could have been a cameo disaster. I flinched when I saw Han Solo presented in the film, because I recall how horrible Harrison Ford was in the latest Indian Jones movie. But damn, he didn't miss a beat, nor any of the other OGs. Glad to see some attention on Chewy, too!

A few nit-picks, most (all?) of which are completely asinine lol:

- Does anyone else think Rey sounds/talks like Keira Knightly at times? It was driving me nuts because I cannot stand Knightly. If Rey wasn't so pretty, I might have hated her character because of it lol

- Not a fan of Finn as he just didn't seem like he 'fit' in. Interestingly, it was also one of the first comments my gf made after the film ended, and she isn't even a SW fan. Can't really put my finger on it. However, I did appreciate his role in humanizing the Storm Trooper, however. Great and much-delayed idea.

- Oy vey...Ren being another emo-edition of a male character fighting the inner battle of light vs. dark (fukkin Hayden Christensen was killing me in E2 and E3). I understand he's technically still in training, but I would expect a touch more assertiveness and maturity in the character, especially given the responsibilities with which he has been tasked by Snoke. There would still be room for character development without having to start at the base level of light-sabre tantrums. Fukkin lost it with the two Storm Troopers doing a 180 on their patrol

- I personally thought the battles were weak. I do acknowledge, however, that the ones doing battle were either in training or were never trained on the light sabre. Still left a void, though.


Anyways, interested to hear what others think
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Finally got to see it. Worth the price of admission, and I'm eager to see where it goes from here.

I get the feeling that this film benefits from the overall terribleness of Episodes 1-3, because this film is exactly what those should have been. And if we hadn't seen how bad these could get, we wouldn't be so grateful for a new one that pretty much meets expectations. Maybe my bar is set high for Star Wars, but I'm not apologizing for that.

 
First, I can't believe how similar this is to the original Star Wars. I was half expecting someone to lose a hand in one of the light sabre battles.

But as for this whole Death Planet idea, would the presence of that weapon not have a destabilizing effect on whichever solar system it was placed in? Am I overthinking this? I mean it's a galaxy far far away, but this galaxy still follows the same rules when it comes to massive objects having their own gravitational pull.

The movie is about this thing swallowing a sun to use for energy to destroy planets/civilizations, but I'm pretty sure it would have a fatal effect on every habitable planet in a system just by being there. No? Did I miss the explanation for this?
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Finally got to see it. Worth the price of admission, and I'm eager to see where it goes from here.

I get the feeling that this film benefits from the overall terribleness of Episodes 1-3, because this film is exactly what those should have been. And if we hadn't seen how bad these could get, we wouldn't be so grateful for a new one that pretty much meets expectations. Maybe my bar is set high for Star Wars, but I'm not apologizing for that.

 
First, I can't believe how similar this is to the original Star Wars. I was half expecting someone to lose a hand in one of the light sabre battles.

But as for this whole Death Planet idea, would the presence of that weapon not have a destabilizing effect on whichever solar system it was placed in? Am I overthinking this? I mean it's a galaxy far far away, but this galaxy still follows the same rules when it comes to massive objects having their own gravitational pull.

The movie is about this thing swallowing a sun to use for energy to destroy planets/civilizations, but I'm pretty sure it would have a fatal effect on every habitable planet in a system just by being there. No? Did I miss the explanation for this?
All of this. There are some misses and headscratchers for sure. It's imperfect but still enjoyable, a lot like A New Hope in that way.
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Finally got to see it. Worth the price of admission, and I'm eager to see where it goes from here.

I get the feeling that this film benefits from the overall terribleness of Episodes 1-3, because this film is exactly what those should have been. And if we hadn't seen how bad these could get, we wouldn't be so grateful for a new one that pretty much meets expectations. Maybe my bar is set high for Star Wars, but I'm not apologizing for that.

 
First, I can't believe how similar this is to the original Star Wars. I was half expecting someone to lose a hand in one of the light sabre battles.

But as for this whole Death Planet idea, would the presence of that weapon not have a destabilizing effect on whichever solar system it was placed in? Am I overthinking this? I mean it's a galaxy far far away, but this galaxy still follows the same rules when it comes to massive objects having their own gravitational pull.

The movie is about this thing swallowing a sun to use for energy to destroy planets/civilizations, but I'm pretty sure it would have a fatal effect on every habitable planet in a system just by being there. No? Did I miss the explanation for this?
I was thinking similar. I also always wondered why they never needed those oxygen masks on the death star with the huge loading bay doors open and ships coming in and out. Does it have its own atmosphere?

Also agree with Natty about the Ren. Why does the sith lord look like such an insecure emo teenager?

Overall I liked the movie and look forward to the next one.
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Finally got to see it. Worth the price of admission, and I'm eager to see where it goes from here.

I get the feeling that this film benefits from the overall terribleness of Episodes 1-3, because this film is exactly what those should have been. And if we hadn't seen how bad these could get, we wouldn't be so grateful for a new one that pretty much meets expectations. Maybe my bar is set high for Star Wars, but I'm not apologizing for that.
Considering how much money Disney will make from this movie, it's not unreasonable to set the bar high. I think this movie is lazy. Agree with what you said about episodes 1-3. Without episodes 4-5, this movie could have been an original story, but then Abrams wouldn't have had any storylines to copy.
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protip: he's not a sith #themoreyouknow
You're right.

I dont know enough about star wars to know what you were talking about. So I googled it and starting reading a lengthy explanation. Then stopped myself because I dont care that much haha.
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Finally got to see it. Worth the price of admission, and I'm eager to see where it goes from here.

I get the feeling that this film benefits from the overall terribleness of Episodes 1-3, because this film is exactly what those should have been. And if we hadn't seen how bad these could get, we wouldn't be so grateful for a new one that pretty much meets expectations. Maybe my bar is set high for Star Wars, but I'm not apologizing for that.

 
First, I can't believe how similar this is to the original Star Wars. I was half expecting someone to lose a hand in one of the light sabre battles.

But as for this whole Death Planet idea, would the presence of that weapon not have a destabilizing effect on whichever solar system it was placed in? Am I overthinking this? I mean it's a galaxy far far away, but this galaxy still follows the same rules when it comes to massive objects having their own gravitational pull.

The movie is about this thing swallowing a sun to use for energy to destroy planets/civilizations, but I'm pretty sure it would have a fatal effect on every habitable planet in a system just by being there. No? Did I miss the explanation for this?
Good points. You must have loved Interstellar
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Ha, still need to see that one. I'm not trying to #neildegrassetyson a sci-fi flick, really just wondering if I missed an important exposition.

On that note, I also feel like I need to watch Rey's flashback about eleventeen more times to see everything.
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Ha, still need to see that one. I'm not trying to #neildegrassetyson a sci-fi flick, really just wondering if I missed an important exposition.

On that note, I also feel like I need to watch Rey's flashback about eleventeen more times to see everything.
I wouldn't waste your time with Interstellar unless you WANT to be annoyed

And I wasn't getting on you for dissecting the movie. They're valid points, but consider that either 1) this galaxy is special and doesn't abide by the rules of physics as we know it (unlikely) or 2) the writers are hoping that the mass of SW followers aren't as intellectual or astute (likely)

Here's another one for you...how does the light saber 'stop' at a certain length? Like laser and flashlight beams, which keep going to infinity, how does that damn sabre contain the light energy at 2-3 feet without an end cap?!?!

Also, with the blasters/photon guns/etc., how do we see the light in such a discernible form when the dispersion of light occurs at a rate undetectable by the human eye?

How do the X-wings and TIE fighters not burn up when entering the atmosphere of a planet?

If you go into hyperdrive, which is essentially traveling at/faster than the speed of light, do you arrive at your destination at the same time, if not earlier? Do the pilots have to factor this into their itineraries when going into battle?

How do the occupants of a aircraft traveling at hyper speed not all black out from the G-forces? How are they able to maintain composure when they decelerate OUT of hyperdrive?


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